Hello all,
Sunday, I extended the bedroom passenger-side slide on my coach #599; as it reached full extension and the flat floor was coming up into place, I thought I heard a clunk type of noise, but wasn't sure. So Monday morning we are ready to leave our campground and head home, I start retracting said slide and hear a hissing/spraying noise (sounded like hydraulic fluid leaking); so I stopped movement immediately. No sign of leaking fluid was visible. So I continued to retract slide, it went in. The coach is now in my garage and there is fluid on the floor behind the pssgr tag axel. I will be looking into it tomorrow, any advice where to start?
Bryan
side note: it's an HWH slide mechanism.
we were just having a discussion about this last nite at dinner. the raised floor slide you have to access under the bed. if it is the flat floor slide like mine is in the bedroom, at least on mine there is an access panel on the floor to get at it. you would have to peel the carpet back there. the front slides access for the hydraulics is from inside the ceiling of the bays. the foam comes down to access them. the problem with the bedroom ones is they are usually over the rear tires. every coach is different, so these are just starting points. most likely you have a hose failure which if so, you can have made at most any hydraulic hose shop. richard had this same failure and it sprayed onto his airbags causing one of them to deteriorate and fail at a later time when he was on the road. so make sure the fluid didnt get on them. a call to newell should help you find the access point for the slide mechanism as well.
tom
(05-24-2017, 05:10 AM)encantotom Wrote: [ -> ]we were just having a discussion about this last nite at dinner. the raised floor slide you have to access under the bed. if it is the flat floor slide like mine is in the bedroom, at least on mine there is an access panel on the floor to get at it. you would have to peel the carpet back there. the front slides access for the hydraulics is from inside the ceiling of the bays. the foam comes down to access them. the problem with the bedroom ones is they are usually over the rear tires. every coach is different, so these are just starting points. most likely you have a hose failure which if so, you can have made at most any hydraulic hose shop. richard had this same failure and it sprayed onto his airbags causing one of them to deteriorate and fail at a later time when he was on the road. so make sure the fluid didnt get on them. a call to newell should help you find the access point for the slide mechanism as well.
tom
Thank you much Tom! I do plan to call Newell this am.
And thanks for the head's-up about the air bags, very good point.
Bryan
I just talked to Mark at Newell, described the problem, and he said "you have major issues". :
He says that some lines run up into the walls, thru the floor, and who know where. Wish me luck.
UPDATE: Hmmmm, how do I say this nicely........what a crappy system Newell has put together regarding the hydraulic slide system.
On slide #3, the rear hydraulic cylinder has broken a weld, and that has caused one hydraulic line to be ruptured and another that was kinked and also needs to be replaced. All of this mechanism is sandwiched between two layers of floor, a 5" space. Impossible to access without tearing the top layer of flooring all apart.
The biggest question in my head is why in the world would Newell do something like this: any mechanical system is bound to need some attention sometime in it's life. It would have been so easy during construction to make access panels in the floor, but they didn't.
It certainly puts a bad taste in my mouth regarding the oh-so-great Newell Coaches.
Bryan
Sorry to hear that your coach was built without access. Typically Newell does provide access, either above or below the slide.
Bryan,
It sure sounds like that through no fault of your own, you will be facing a very difficult repair procedure.
I am not going to make any excuses for Newell's design.
What might be helpful for the community is as much detail as you feel able to provide on this particular system. As we each learn both the pluses and minuses of a product we become better consumers and hopefully drive products in a direction to meet our needs.
And you know, that since this happened to you, someone else down the road will have it happen to them.
So if you would, please detail the steps taken to complete the repair and maybe a ballpark time and materials number.
I sure feel your pain. My slides experience has been anything but good, and that includes two trips to Miami, OK and it still doesn't work correctly.
Russ
Bryan, I have had problems with my front slide. For 4 years all went well, but last year I arrived on a Saturday for an Monday morning appoint at Newell. After parking I open my front slide and the floor came up crooked. I closed it and it went back in. Monday Mark had to remove the sofa and part of the floor in order to repair the floor mechanism. It seems that a couple short bolts in the mechanism had come loose. Mark replaced all of them with longer ones. This took all day. The coach stayed inside that night. So the next day after repairing the things I had an appointment for the driver took my coach out to our space and he open the same slide and it came out crooked. One end about 5" out and the other end 1". This was 4:00 PM. So Mark and another guy came out and started working on this and the problem was underneath the floor at the top of the bays. After two and a half hours and a $450.00 part that was repaired. I left for home the next morning. When I got home I open the slide and something was not right. It did not want to open when I first pushed the switch and after a couple of pushes it opened and then it did not want to close until I pushed the switch a number of times. To make this story shorter, I finally had to pull out the complete slide computer in left bay one and ship it to HWH. That was several months ago and all seem to be working well. All I have to do NOW is have the paint touched up on the side of the slide.
Slides are expensive and a pain in the butt. They are great when they are working.
we all feel your pain. i am having rear slide problems too. it at least worksa dn doesnt leak. i will fix it in my shop indoors when i get home. we started to tear into it in alabama, but i decided not to make it worse and do it in a controlled environment
most of us with hwh slides hold our breath when we put them in and when we put them out
tom
Bryan, It's not just Newell. I had problem with both my slides with my Foretravel. It is the nature of the beast.