30 amp service for storage - Printable Version

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30 amp service for storage - Dhead - 08-24-2021

I didn't see this coming... After reviewing the operating manual for my new to me 2009 (#1261), I figured out that I need a 50 amp service (at all times). There are several RV storage areas, but covered and 50A is nearly impossible. If I had a spare $125K I would grab a site at Mount Olive Shores and park it there... Driving down Friday to take it home.
I wrote the following to the Motorcoach Store after talking to Newell:
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Do you have Outback inverter/charger experts down there? I talked to Newell today after reviewing the documentation about the need for 50 amp service. Although I have 50 amp service at my house, my HOA is not amenable to allowing more than 2 days even though I have a 100+ foot driveway.

Newell said a splitter is the the answer (after confirming I had outback, not ProSine), so if there isn't one in the coach, I have at least a 30 amp service at my local covered storage, and might be able to get a second one. Newell said with one, we need the power to go to the "right leg" for charging, and to set the Outback AC in to CORD.
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So am I on the right track? I have:
a 50A female to 30A Male service,
a spare 30A to 30A male marine to 30A RV (just in case),
and a 50A female to two 30A male RV in case I can get two 30A outlets. I figure I can get something going out of this.

My Outback seems to be easy to force over to 'CORD' and code an amperage limit.

I will talk to the guys about turning off circuits when I go down to get the coach on Friday.

I've also ordered a 15A AMP-L-Start on the way in case the echo charger for chassis batteries isn't playing well. Since the F150 Toad has to keep its ignition 'on' when on the road, I ordered the Toad Charge for it

RE: 30 amp service for storage - pairodice - 08-24-2021

We use an enclosed storage building that has 30amp power and the coach stays very happy there. The biggest thing is to keep your batteries charging on the 30amps. Newell wired ours (1998) so that the 30amp leg that is energized includes all the major systems, even the A/C unit but don’t run them unless you want to blow a breaker in the storage building - YMMV…

RE: 30 amp service for storage - Dhead - 08-24-2021

Thanks! Hopefully that's the case with mine!

RE: 30 amp service for storage - Dhead - 08-24-2021

I realized a little while ago that with the splitter I ordered, if the first 30A connection doesn't show the charger working, all I have to do is switch over to the other one...

RE: 30 amp service for storage - HoosierDaddy - 08-24-2021

I’ve stored my 1993 on 115 volt. I have a Xantrex 458 Invertor/charger. All I need is to keep batts up and fridge running.

RE: 30 amp service for storage - CaptainGizmo - 08-25-2021

Ok, I can help here!

Yes, the "SPLITTER" that Newell refers to is the "Y-adapter" with DUAL 30A MALES to SINGLE 50A FEMALE. Here is an example: 50-30amp Y adapter

This is designed to be plugged into TWO 30A plugs on a pedestal...not something I've seen much of. Newell says doing it this way will power up the entire coach on both legs of the 50A.

But...I'm in a worse situation for our storage; it has nothing but standard 110v 15A circuits...GFCI to make matters worse!

I've worked out a system in which our 2015 has been successfully plugged in and charging nicely for around 9 months now. I had to buy an off-board VICTRON 30A charger. I connect this to my HOUSE batteries using a Anderson Quick-Connect...works great!

My CHASSIS batteries are charged using the on-board XANTREX backup charger, which ONLY goes to the chassis batteries.

A couple key points:

I connect these two chargers ON SEPARATE circuits to make sure that they don't both blow at the same time.
I do NOT keep my Battery Merge switch on. This is a FATAL mistake I made because before having separate chargers, losing power means your house will drain ALL of your batteries. (Ask me how I know!)
I have a NEST camera that's stuck to the bay wall, pointed at my "lighted" cords. So, I just need to log in and I can see that everything is powered up nicely. Also, IF the camera every loses power, I'll get a notification. Kinda like a rube-golberg power monitor!

RE: 30 amp service for storage - Dhead - 08-25-2021

Thanks! I got my splitter today. I will look over the storage spot power tomorrow.

RE: 30 amp service for storage - DK on the road - 08-25-2021

"Since the F150 Toad has to keep its ignition 'on' when on the road, I ordered the Toad Charge for it".

I also tow a F150 sometimes behind the Coach. My 18' F150 doesn't need the key on. Am I missing something?

RE: 30 amp service for storage - encantotom - 08-25-2021

i had my 02 plugged into a non gfci 20a circuit for several years and it worked fine as long for lights and charging. nothing else

tom

RE: 30 amp service for storage - ron skeen - 08-25-2021

I was in -10 below on a snowmobile trip and stay in the Newell on 120 plugged into a motel room. I ran the aqua hot for heat and the battery charger for the batteries that operated the inverted 00to keep all system going with no problem for a week in my 96 Newell. I think the inverter/charger Xantrex Freedom 458