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Valve Adjustment
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In April of this Year I had the Jake brake and valves adjusted by Newell. The complete job took 11 hours to complete as I have the rear bath model and a flooring hatch had to be removed. It took 4 hours to remove the hatch, 4 hours to adjust the jake brake and engine valves and 3 hours to reassemble. There was no damage to my coach & they did a great job! I immediately felt an increase in jake brake performance. I am currently on my first interstate trip since the valve adjustment and the mileage has increased almost a full mpg. This is similar results that I experienced with my Country Coach.

When I had the valves adjusted I kept complete notes and pictures. I am currently in an informational "Black Hole". I have no satellite tv--too far north. I have no cellular service--in the 3% of USA that AT&T doesn't cover. Thanks to a neighbor I have limited wifi.

Give me a few days and I'll post the process for gaining access on a rear bath with photos.

Sittin in the "Black Hole" in NH.........................

Steve Bare
1999 Newell 2 slide #531
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#2

Steve,

Wow! 1 mpg increase in fuel economy is awesome!

With diesel fuel at $3.80 per gallon that amounts to about .07 per mile savings. Could some of you engineers double check my math? If you put 20,000 miles per year then your savings would be $1,400.

Am I figuring right?

Tuga & Karen Gaidry

2005 Honda Pilot
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#3

I had a similar but not as dramatic increase in mileage when I adjusted the valves on my engine. I saw about a 0.5 mpg increase.

Granted I had to adjust the valves and the injectors when I took the head off to replace the cylinder liner.

I know that DD doesn't really call for an adjustment at 100k miles but in hindsight I would recommend it based on my own results. It could be that the injector adjustment was just as beneficial as the valve adjustment.

The valve adjustment is very easy if you read the DD procedure. The injector adjustment requires a specialty gauge that is available on line. Take care to read the injector specs on the side of the valve cover to order the correct one.

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
99 Newell, 512
Maverick Hybrid Toad
Inverness, FL (when we're home Cool )
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#4

                                        Several Newell owners I have spoken with have expressed interest in gaining access to the series 60 on a rear bath floorplan. I would guess that my experience may have similarities with rear closet models also. I was at Newell to have the valves adjusted, jake brake adjusted and injector height checked. I'll describe the process and provide photos.

Disassembly began inside the coach with the removal of a mirrored & carpeted board that is on the back wall of the rear closet down by the floor. It is velcroed to the rear wall of the closet. Removing it exposes a access cover to the engine compartment. Next go outside and remove the chrome air tube that runs left to right. Now remove a center section of the aluminum engine firewall. There are five phillips headed screws around the edges that are removed. There are also two 1/4" x 4" bolts on each side of the center section that hold the access door in place. Once the bolts & screws are removed, move the center section over to the right and set on top of the hydraulic reservoir. See photos #1,2 & 3.

Next remove four 1/4" x 4" bolt that go upward through a 1 1/2" x 1 1/2" frame member into the floor access panel-see photo #4(only one bolt hole visible). There are 2 bolts on each side of the engine that are 20" apart. Both bolts on the right side are easily accessible through the engine access compartment. The left side is more challenging. Remove the coolant tank out of the way. Remove the closest bolt. Now get the skinny guy with the long arms to shimmy in between the left side of the engine and fan and remove the other bolt on the left side. Now push the access door into the coach that was behind the engine firewall center section-see photo #5. In photo #5 you can see the outline of the metal pan that surrounds the floor access cover that needs to be removed. The tech layed on the floor and using a boxcutter, cut out the grout on the outside of the metal pan. This was tedious and took awhile to cut through the grout holding the floor access panel in. Tech said as you worked on cutting the grout you could feel when you were through it. Got to remove as much grout in the thin line as possible to allow floor access panel to come out.

Now the uncomfortable part begins--prying up the floor access panel without breaking the granite floor. They pried from the rear using 1/2" blocks of plywood on the valve cover and from the right side. Prying from the rear was the most effective. As one tech pried the other tech continued to scrape out the grout around the metal pan. This process was slow, tedious, but successful as the floor access panel finally came loose--see photos #6, 7, 8 & 9. We are now 4 hours into the job. There is now access and no chipped or broken granite. Tech said it was the hardest he ever had to pry.

Photo # 10 is looking down at the open engine with the jakes still in place from inside the coach. Adjusting the valves, adjusting the jakes & cheking injector height took about 4 hours. Photo #11 is a polished up valve cover ready for installation--not included in the valve adjustment. Photo # 12 is the valve cover back on the engine and ready to assemble the coach back together in the reverse order of disassembly. The caulking in photo #13 was used in place of grout, looked great and should make removal of the floor access easier next time. Reassembly took another 3 hours. Total time for job was 11 hours.

Engine performance feels the same, but mpg has increased just under 1 mpg. The jake brake now works much better. Before I didn't feel the jake working in the low position, now I do.

For those that do not know Detroit Diesel recommends adjusting the valves and jake the first time at 60,000 miles.


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Steve Bare
1999 Newell 2 slide #531
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My Newell model does not have the rear bath or walk in closet. Can someone tell me how to access the top of the engine to adjust the valves? I would like to remove the necessary interior parts and then have Newell or a Detroit 60 specialist make the adjustments.

2001 Newell #579
tow a Honda Odyssey
fun car: 1935 Mercedes 500K replica
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#6

"Can someone tell me how to access the top of the engine to adjust the valves?"

Chester,
I do not know exactly how yours comes apart. But I would look for similarities with how mine came apart. Start in the engine bay & look for the center section that comes apart. There must be a floor panel that is similar to mine, just not granite covered, that is in a closet or somewhere at the rear of the coach. Let us know what you find.

Steve Bare
1999 Newell 2 slide #531
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#7

Steve,

Great post and excellent pictures. Thank you for posting and explaining it so well. This post will be referred to many times in the future.

Thanks!

Tuga & Karen Gaidry

2005 Honda Pilot
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#8

we just need to have a get together where richard is there and all do it together with richard supervising the valve adjustments.....

tom

2002 45'8" Newell Coach 608  Series 60 DDEC4/Allison World 6 Speed HD4000MH

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