If that's # 31 ( sequence 31) and we have # 59, 1984 was a big year for Newell.
Guy
1984 Newell # 59
Southern California, but not for long
The sequence number in 1984 was the last two digits of the VIN as opposed to the coach number. Sequence number was not the same as the coach number in the 1980's. As I recall, your coach is sequence number 18 (please let me know if that is incorrect). I think that there were 37 coaches built in 1984. The coach numbering system began in 1983. However, I am not sure if it included ALL 1983's. That is the reason I have been hoping for someone with a 1983 or 1984 to find evidence of their coach number. I do have a known baseline in 1986 where the shop drawings show both the VIN and the coach number (sequence number 31, coach #113). Since I can't absolutely confirm the years prior to 1986, I have been using the sequence number which is tied directly to the VIN and is therefore indisputable. That should make the first 1986 (VIN ending in 01) coach #83.
I urge anyone with a 1983, 1984 or 1985 Newell that has a shop drawing with the coach # on it to PLEASE contact me. I would love to see documentation and add clarity to my database for those years.
(11-05-2016, 08:46 PM)Fulltiming Wrote: [ -> ]The sequence number in 1984 was the last two digits of the VIN as opposed to the coach number. Sequence number was not the same as the coach number in the 1980's. As I recall, your coach is sequence number 18 (please let me know if that is incorrect). I think that there were 37 coaches built in 1984. The coach numbering system began in 1983. However, I am not sure if it included ALL 1983's. That is the reason I have been hoping for someone with a 1983 or 1984 to find evidence of their coach number. I do have a known baseline in 1986 where the shop drawings show both the VIN and the coach number (sequence number 31, coach #113). Since I can't absolutely confirm the years prior to 1986, I have been using the sequence number which is tied directly to the VIN and is therefore indisputable. That should make the first 1986 (VIN ending in 01) coach #83.
I urge anyone with a 1983, 1984 or 1985 Newell that has a shop drawing with the coach # on it to PLEASE contact me. I would love to see documentation and add clarity to my database for those years.
yes, # 59 is vin 18
Thank for being the resident historian.
This gives me a headache
(11-05-2016, 08:46 PM)Fulltiming Wrote: [ -> ]The sequence number in 1984 was the last two digits of the VIN as opposed to the coach number. Sequence number was not the same as the coach number in the 1980's. As I recall, your coach is sequence number 18 (please let me know if that is incorrect). I think that there were 37 coaches built in 1984. The coach numbering system began in 1983. However, I am not sure if it included ALL 1983's. That is the reason I have been hoping for someone with a 1983 or 1984 to find evidence of their coach number. I do have a known baseline in 1986 where the shop drawings show both the VIN and the coach number (sequence number 31, coach #113). Since I can't absolutely confirm the years prior to 1986, I have been using the sequence number which is tied directly to the VIN and is therefore indisputable. That should make the first 1986 (VIN ending in 01) coach #83.
I urge anyone with a 1983, 1984 or 1985 Newell that has a shop drawing with the coach # on it to PLEASE contact me. I would love to see documentation and add clarity to my database for those years.
I think I may have just what you're looking for. I own a 1983 Classic (bought 8 years ago) and, as I dug around in the paperwork that came with the coach, I came across the original blueprint/schematic. It is fairly large; however, I'll scan the important corner with all the specs and send you a PM. Hopefully you can use it to confirm the start of sequencing.
Great, Pat, I really appreciate any assistance I can get.
(11-14-2016, 09:21 AM)OldSchool Wrote: [ -> ] (11-05-2016, 08:46 PM)Fulltiming Wrote: [ -> ]The sequence number in 1984 was the last two digits of the VIN as opposed to the coach number. Sequence number was not the same as the coach number in the 1980's. As I recall, your coach is sequence number 18 (please let me know if that is incorrect). I think that there were 37 coaches built in 1984. The coach numbering system began in 1983. However, I am not sure if it included ALL 1983's. That is the reason I have been hoping for someone with a 1983 or 1984 to find evidence of their coach number. I do have a known baseline in 1986 where the shop drawings show both the VIN and the coach number (sequence number 31, coach #113). Since I can't absolutely confirm the years prior to 1986, I have been using the sequence number which is tied directly to the VIN and is therefore indisputable. That should make the first 1986 (VIN ending in 01) coach #83.
I urge anyone with a 1983, 1984 or 1985 Newell that has a shop drawing with the coach # on it to PLEASE contact me. I would love to see documentation and add clarity to my database for those years.
I think I may have just what you're looking for. I own a 1983 Classic (bought 8 years ago) and, as I dug around in the paperwork that came with the coach, I came across the original blueprint/schematic. It is fairly large; however, I'll scan the important corner with all the specs and send you a PM. Hopefully you can use it to confirm the start of sequencing.
If you have a 'smart phone' perhaps you could just take a picture of the whole blueprint and text or email it?
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