<![CDATA[Newell Gurus - Drivetrain]]> https://newellgurus.com/ Wed, 03 Jun 2026 22:52:04 +0000 MyBB <![CDATA[Air filter restriction value]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8296 Wed, 18 Dec 2024 23:12:37 +0000 drivfour@gmail.com]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8296 <![CDATA[8V92 Coolant Filter?]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7024 Thu, 13 Oct 2022 18:47:36 +0000 Floridian]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7024
Also, I have no idea what coolant my coach has so I was going to do a complete flush and refill and I was in between SCA coolant and OAT coolant for an 8V92 should I have any preference? I have several bottles of SCA already so I was inclined to buy more of those and do the refill but I can also buy the Final Charge one and replace it with that one if it is better.

Thanks for any help on this.]]>
Also, I have no idea what coolant my coach has so I was going to do a complete flush and refill and I was in between SCA coolant and OAT coolant for an 8V92 should I have any preference? I have several bottles of SCA already so I was inclined to buy more of those and do the refill but I can also buy the Final Charge one and replace it with that one if it is better.

Thanks for any help on this.]]> <![CDATA[1978 Cummings Diesel Engine Operations & Maintenance Manuals + Shop Service Manual]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6914 Wed, 03 Aug 2022 22:29:43 +0000 kaptain]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6914 Right now, I only have the "Operations & Maintenance Manuals."
I'll see if I can dig up shop service/repair manuals for these older type Cummings engines. 
If I can find it, I'll post it here, or if someone else has it, please share it.


.pdf 1978 Cummings Diesel Engine Operations & Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 11.26 MB  Downloads: 23


.pdf 1972 Cummins diesel engines operation and maintenance manual bulletin 983700-ce.pdf Size: 8.74 MB  Downloads: 12


.pdf 1971 CUMMINS Marine Diesel Engines Operation And Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 10.1 MB  Downloads: 13


update:  added shop service manual, part 1 (first 100 pages or so). 
If it's useful, let me know; I'll construct the 2nd part when I get more time.

.pdf 1978 Cummins Diesel V903-and-VT903 Engines Shop Service Manual - Part-1.pdf Size: 15.28 MB  Downloads: 38
]]> Right now, I only have the "Operations & Maintenance Manuals."
I'll see if I can dig up shop service/repair manuals for these older type Cummings engines. 
If I can find it, I'll post it here, or if someone else has it, please share it.


.pdf 1978 Cummings Diesel Engine Operations & Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 11.26 MB  Downloads: 23


.pdf 1972 Cummins diesel engines operation and maintenance manual bulletin 983700-ce.pdf Size: 8.74 MB  Downloads: 12


.pdf 1971 CUMMINS Marine Diesel Engines Operation And Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 10.1 MB  Downloads: 13


update:  added shop service manual, part 1 (first 100 pages or so). 
If it's useful, let me know; I'll construct the 2nd part when I get more time.

.pdf 1978 Cummins Diesel V903-and-VT903 Engines Shop Service Manual - Part-1.pdf Size: 15.28 MB  Downloads: 38
]]> <![CDATA[8v92 block heater]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6886 Thu, 21 Jul 2022 04:25:42 +0000 BusNit]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6886 <![CDATA[radiator fan speeds]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6765 Fri, 06 May 2022 16:03:26 +0000 Deper10]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6765 Thanks

Dario Perini

#581  2001 45'8"]]> Thanks

Dario Perini

#581  2001 45'8"]]> <![CDATA[Detroit Series 92 Engine Manuals]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6681 Fri, 25 Mar 2022 15:45:47 +0000 kaptain]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6681
@Tf175, who has Detroit 92 series 8V:


.pdf Detroit Series 92 Engine Operator's Guide.pdf Size: 768.91 KB  Downloads: 22




another file (Service Manual, over 2000 pages, about 20mb) failed to upload. It complains about file size being too large.  So I have provided a dropbox shared link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bs1u7ecmwq5t97...l.pdf?dl=0


update: now after Tom made some modifications, I was able to upload the service manual which is 21Mb, 
.pdf Detroit Series 92 Service Manual.pdf Size: 21.28 MB  Downloads: 22
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@Tf175, who has Detroit 92 series 8V:


.pdf Detroit Series 92 Engine Operator's Guide.pdf Size: 768.91 KB  Downloads: 22




another file (Service Manual, over 2000 pages, about 20mb) failed to upload. It complains about file size being too large.  So I have provided a dropbox shared link:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bs1u7ecmwq5t97...l.pdf?dl=0


update: now after Tom made some modifications, I was able to upload the service manual which is 21Mb, 
.pdf Detroit Series 92 Service Manual.pdf Size: 21.28 MB  Downloads: 22
]]> <![CDATA[Caterpillar Engine Manuals for 3208]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6679 Thu, 24 Mar 2022 19:55:26 +0000 kaptain]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6679 I can also get the parts manual (CAT calls it "Parts Book"), but it will take some time and effort, as it needs captured or scanned page by page.

1 file failed to upload, the file is above 150 Mb, and I am getting an error message saying "maximum size 20.97mb".

I will load to my dropbox and update with a shared link.

.pdf Cat 3208 Engine Disassembly Assembly.pdf Size: 8.21 MB  Downloads: 20

.pdf CAT 3208 Diesel Pump Install Timing Instructions.pdf Size: 744.88 KB  Downloads: 17

.pdf CAT 3208 Engine Service & Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 9.8 MB  Downloads: 20

.pdf CAT 3208 Maintenance Intervals.pdf Size: 927.55 KB  Downloads: 17

.pdf CAT-3208 Truck Engine Specifications.pdf Size: 11.61 MB  Downloads: 17

.pdf CAT-3208 Truck Engine Specifications 2.pdf Size: 2.99 MB  Downloads: 15


update:
dropbox folder contains the large files that could not be uploaded here due to file size limitations.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8qxgqtflaraa1...91mva?dl=0]]> I can also get the parts manual (CAT calls it "Parts Book"), but it will take some time and effort, as it needs captured or scanned page by page.

1 file failed to upload, the file is above 150 Mb, and I am getting an error message saying "maximum size 20.97mb".

I will load to my dropbox and update with a shared link.

.pdf Cat 3208 Engine Disassembly Assembly.pdf Size: 8.21 MB  Downloads: 20

.pdf CAT 3208 Diesel Pump Install Timing Instructions.pdf Size: 744.88 KB  Downloads: 17

.pdf CAT 3208 Engine Service & Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 9.8 MB  Downloads: 20

.pdf CAT 3208 Maintenance Intervals.pdf Size: 927.55 KB  Downloads: 17

.pdf CAT-3208 Truck Engine Specifications.pdf Size: 11.61 MB  Downloads: 17

.pdf CAT-3208 Truck Engine Specifications 2.pdf Size: 2.99 MB  Downloads: 15


update:
dropbox folder contains the large files that could not be uploaded here due to file size limitations.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/8qxgqtflaraa1...91mva?dl=0]]> <![CDATA[Caterpillar Engine Manuals, C10, C12, C15]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6676 Thu, 24 Mar 2022 01:56:36 +0000 kaptain]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6676 I understand some Newell coaches have CAT, some others have Cummings, or Detroit Diesel in them.


.pdf CAT C10-C12 Engine Disassembly And Assembly.pdf Size: 14.49 MB  Downloads: 244

.pdf CAT C11 and C12 Truck Engine Specifications.pdf Size: 9.86 MB  Downloads: 146

.pdf CAT C11-and-C13-Industrial-Engines-Maintenance-Intervals.pdf Size: 497.78 KB  Downloads: 54

.pdf CAT C12 Electrical_Electronic Installation Guide.pdf Size: 2.66 MB  Downloads: 97

.pdf Cat C15 Engine Dissasembly and Assembly.pdf Size: 10.58 MB  Downloads: 194

.pdf CAT C15 Testing & Adjustment.pdf Size: 3.47 MB  Downloads: 158

.pdf CAT Engine C10, C12, C15 Y C18 Troubleshooting Manual.pdf Size: 4.7 MB  Downloads: 188

.pdf CAT Engine C13 Operation & Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 1.4 MB  Downloads: 48

.pdf CAT Truck Engine Programming Manual.pdf Size: 5.55 MB  Downloads: 135
]]> I understand some Newell coaches have CAT, some others have Cummings, or Detroit Diesel in them.


.pdf CAT C10-C12 Engine Disassembly And Assembly.pdf Size: 14.49 MB  Downloads: 244

.pdf CAT C11 and C12 Truck Engine Specifications.pdf Size: 9.86 MB  Downloads: 146

.pdf CAT C11-and-C13-Industrial-Engines-Maintenance-Intervals.pdf Size: 497.78 KB  Downloads: 54

.pdf CAT C12 Electrical_Electronic Installation Guide.pdf Size: 2.66 MB  Downloads: 97

.pdf Cat C15 Engine Dissasembly and Assembly.pdf Size: 10.58 MB  Downloads: 194

.pdf CAT C15 Testing & Adjustment.pdf Size: 3.47 MB  Downloads: 158

.pdf CAT Engine C10, C12, C15 Y C18 Troubleshooting Manual.pdf Size: 4.7 MB  Downloads: 188

.pdf CAT Engine C13 Operation & Maintenance Manual.pdf Size: 1.4 MB  Downloads: 48

.pdf CAT Truck Engine Programming Manual.pdf Size: 5.55 MB  Downloads: 135
]]> <![CDATA[Allision Transmission Operators Manual, Troubleshooting Manual & Service Manuals]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6671 Wed, 23 Mar 2022 05:18:25 +0000 kaptain]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6671
Many files are too big size to post (hundreds of pages), so I put them into a shared folder

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mpjnp75ob4twf...aeP4a?dl=0]]>
Many files are too big size to post (hundreds of pages), so I put them into a shared folder

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mpjnp75ob4twf...aeP4a?dl=0]]> <![CDATA[Detroit Series 60 Service Manual & Tech EGR Manual]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6667 Wed, 23 Mar 2022 00:52:51 +0000 kaptain]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6667

.pdf Detroit Diesel Series 60 Technician EGR manual 2004.pdf Size: 2.87 MB  Downloads: 30


2 files failed to upload, error message says file too large, so I share them via google drive link

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1...sp=sharing]]>

.pdf Detroit Diesel Series 60 Technician EGR manual 2004.pdf Size: 2.87 MB  Downloads: 30


2 files failed to upload, error message says file too large, so I share them via google drive link

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1...sp=sharing]]> <![CDATA[Engine fan control]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6046 Fri, 23 Apr 2021 17:40:11 +0000 Georgeb]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=6046 I disconnected the control and fan came up to speed

Guess I need to replace the control unit. As my brain remembers
Someone posted a thread about this problem...but I can’t find. 

Info needed ... where did they find the part...]]> I disconnected the control and fan came up to speed

Guess I need to replace the control unit. As my brain remembers
Someone posted a thread about this problem...but I can’t find. 

Info needed ... where did they find the part...]]> <![CDATA[vms pc connector diagram for newells]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5569 Thu, 16 Jul 2020 18:31:33 +0000 encantotom]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5569
so here is a diagram of the different vmspc plugs and pinouts.   

at least on my 3 newells it has been the rectangular plug

that said,  only 4 wires are used.  power, ground, and two data

i hard wired into the back of the plug on mine so as to hot have a plug in the connector all the time.  and then put the vmspc box in the glove compartment

later

tom
.jpg J1708-J1939_connector_comparison_8-17c.jpg Size: 77.63 KB  Downloads: 142

.jpg vmspc wiring.jpg Size: 1.75 MB  Downloads: 147
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so here is a diagram of the different vmspc plugs and pinouts.   

at least on my 3 newells it has been the rectangular plug

that said,  only 4 wires are used.  power, ground, and two data

i hard wired into the back of the plug on mine so as to hot have a plug in the connector all the time.  and then put the vmspc box in the glove compartment

later

tom
.jpg J1708-J1939_connector_comparison_8-17c.jpg Size: 77.63 KB  Downloads: 142

.jpg vmspc wiring.jpg Size: 1.75 MB  Downloads: 147
]]> <![CDATA[Series 60 Tensioner]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5023 Fri, 21 Jun 2019 11:22:49 +0000 Richard]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5023 <![CDATA[Alternate Muffler Replacement]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=4754 Sat, 02 Feb 2019 02:06:55 +0000 Richard]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=4754 I recently had to replace the muffler on my 99 Newell. The original was the Riker model as documented in other threads. I could not find the Riker on line, and I wondered if there was a financially efficient solution than ordering one from the mothership. 
.jpg Busted2 (2).JPG Size: 1.94 MB  Downloads: 648

.jpg Busted2 (1).JPG Size: 1.84 MB  Downloads: 693


I did not want to use a straight pipe, and I really didn't want to do any major welding or modifications that would prevent the use of the original style Riker. 
.jpg Muffler.JPG Size: 2.05 MB  Downloads: 691

I opted to use this round muffler. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2N...UTF8&psc=1
.jpg Elbow.JPG Size: 1.68 MB  Downloads: 716

You also need a elbow to transition out of the existing flex tubing into a horizontal run. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N65...UTF8&psc=1

You need two clamps  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073ZD...UTF8&psc=1
.jpg Tailpipe.JPG Size: 2.14 MB  Downloads: 696
 
.jpg Tailpipe2.JPG Size: 2.5 MB  Downloads: 290

And a short piece of round tubing to make an exhaust tip. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079VF...UTF8&psc=1

I used an angle grinder to get the length and angle right.

I used two generic muffler hangars to support the muffler at the elbow, and at the exhaust tip. Total modification to the coach was to drill one hole for the aft hangar. 

Initial results are the sound is no louder than the original muffler. I will report on maximum turbo boost, fuel mileage, and jake brake sound when I have some miles on this setup.]]> I recently had to replace the muffler on my 99 Newell. The original was the Riker model as documented in other threads. I could not find the Riker on line, and I wondered if there was a financially efficient solution than ordering one from the mothership. 
.jpg Busted2 (2).JPG Size: 1.94 MB  Downloads: 648

.jpg Busted2 (1).JPG Size: 1.84 MB  Downloads: 693


I did not want to use a straight pipe, and I really didn't want to do any major welding or modifications that would prevent the use of the original style Riker. 
.jpg Muffler.JPG Size: 2.05 MB  Downloads: 691

I opted to use this round muffler. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F2N...UTF8&psc=1
.jpg Elbow.JPG Size: 1.68 MB  Downloads: 716

You also need a elbow to transition out of the existing flex tubing into a horizontal run. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N65...UTF8&psc=1

You need two clamps  https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B073ZD...UTF8&psc=1
.jpg Tailpipe.JPG Size: 2.14 MB  Downloads: 696
 
.jpg Tailpipe2.JPG Size: 2.5 MB  Downloads: 290

And a short piece of round tubing to make an exhaust tip. https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B079VF...UTF8&psc=1

I used an angle grinder to get the length and angle right.

I used two generic muffler hangars to support the muffler at the elbow, and at the exhaust tip. Total modification to the coach was to drill one hole for the aft hangar. 

Initial results are the sound is no louder than the original muffler. I will report on maximum turbo boost, fuel mileage, and jake brake sound when I have some miles on this setup.]]> <![CDATA[Radiator Steam Cleaning- Lesson learned]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=4346 Sat, 07 Jul 2018 04:00:12 +0000 Guy]]> https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=4346
The radiator "looked" clean to me before we started the trip. In Cedar City Utah we had a truck shop steam the radiator, and saw some evidence of dirt in the fins. The cooling did not improve. Today, a fellow guru asked for photos of 8V92 radiator fans. I thought I would send a photo, as no two Newells are alike. Imagine my surprise when I opened the engine bay and saw a totally dirty radiator. Photo attached.  I watched the truck shop steam the radiator, but looking back on the cleaning yesterday, the shop made sure the radiator had flow through it from back to front  as they steam cleaned, but never checked their work in the engine side of the radiator when they were done. Neither did I. Also, I now believe they did not use steam, just hot water. Not ever using a steam cleaner, i did not know what to look for, but I saw no steam, just water. 

Tomorrow I will locate another shop. We are now in the Moab Utah area. I am certain we will be running a lot cooler, thanks to the gurus.
.jpg rad3.JPG Size: 1.8 MB  Downloads: 519
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The radiator "looked" clean to me before we started the trip. In Cedar City Utah we had a truck shop steam the radiator, and saw some evidence of dirt in the fins. The cooling did not improve. Today, a fellow guru asked for photos of 8V92 radiator fans. I thought I would send a photo, as no two Newells are alike. Imagine my surprise when I opened the engine bay and saw a totally dirty radiator. Photo attached.  I watched the truck shop steam the radiator, but looking back on the cleaning yesterday, the shop made sure the radiator had flow through it from back to front  as they steam cleaned, but never checked their work in the engine side of the radiator when they were done. Neither did I. Also, I now believe they did not use steam, just hot water. Not ever using a steam cleaner, i did not know what to look for, but I saw no steam, just water. 

Tomorrow I will locate another shop. We are now in the Moab Utah area. I am certain we will be running a lot cooler, thanks to the gurus.
.jpg rad3.JPG Size: 1.8 MB  Downloads: 519
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