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		<title><![CDATA[Newell Gurus - Engine and Transmission Monitoring Systems]]></title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2026 07:36:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Low coolant level sensor isx 15]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8800</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2025 02:05:31 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=5644">Figs</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anyone know where to find a low coolant level sensor. Isx15. 3 pin. I got the number off of the sensor, but when I look it up, it reads, not enough numbers. I ordered a couple off of the internet that look like mine, but they didn’t work. 361111 was the number on my sensor. Ty]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Anyone know where to find a low coolant level sensor. Isx15. 3 pin. I got the number off of the sensor, but when I look it up, it reads, not enough numbers. I ordered a couple off of the internet that look like mine, but they didn’t work. 361111 was the number on my sensor. Ty]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Fuel filter, replacement secrets????]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8784</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Dec 2025 19:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=5050">Gem930</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[I’m replacing the fuel filter on my series 60, and wondering if there is a way to do it where I do not have to re-prime the injectors???]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I’m replacing the fuel filter on my series 60, and wondering if there is a way to do it where I do not have to re-prime the injectors???]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Transmission dipstick]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8625</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2025 22:08:27 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=5098">David W</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Getting my new to me 87 classic #145 back roadworthy. My question today is the transmission dipstick has 2 sets of low/high marks. I assume one is hot and one is cold, but which one is what.<br />
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Getting my new to me 87 classic #145 back roadworthy. My question today is the transmission dipstick has 2 sets of low/high marks. I assume one is hot and one is cold, but which one is what.<br />
Thanks]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Transmission Cooler Fans]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8452</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2025 12:44:24 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4443">Jeff@ginosgarageusa.com</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[So recently I have noticed my transmission temps rising. Now it may also be that ambient temps are rising and this is just a direct result of the ambient temps here in Fl going up. So my transmission temps as read on my Bluefire have been going up in the 200s up to 220 deg F. Is this what others are seeing on their HD4060s when in the heat? I am just wondering if my transmission cooler is working. So I believe my coach has a cooler mounted just forward of the drive axle with 2 electric fans on it. I am wondering if those fans are working and what temp they come on? Not sure if you would be able to hear them running with the engine running. I would assume there may be a relay in the engine electrical box that turns the fans on, I have not really looked yet. Any data or info any one has would be helpful.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So recently I have noticed my transmission temps rising. Now it may also be that ambient temps are rising and this is just a direct result of the ambient temps here in Fl going up. So my transmission temps as read on my Bluefire have been going up in the 200s up to 220 deg F. Is this what others are seeing on their HD4060s when in the heat? I am just wondering if my transmission cooler is working. So I believe my coach has a cooler mounted just forward of the drive axle with 2 electric fans on it. I am wondering if those fans are working and what temp they come on? Not sure if you would be able to hear them running with the engine running. I would assume there may be a relay in the engine electrical box that turns the fans on, I have not really looked yet. Any data or info any one has would be helpful.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[removing engine cover]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8250</link>
			<pubDate>Sun, 17 Nov 2024 15:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4271">drivfour@gmail.com</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Anyone have some detail on removing cover? I did call Newell and understand there are fasteners aft facing, behind vertical cover in aft bath and some above valve cover. Wondering if someone has a bit more detail<br />
JD]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Anyone have some detail on removing cover? I did call Newell and understand there are fasteners aft facing, behind vertical cover in aft bath and some above valve cover. Wondering if someone has a bit more detail<br />
JD]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Radiator Newell 1970]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8054</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2024 12:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4266">Donna</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hello,<br />
<br />
I have a question, I need to replace my radiator on my Newell 1970 petrol engine ( 391 ) I can have a new frame put in with the old one, or I buy a new one which is probably better, but hard to find here in the Netherlands. Does anyone know what type of radiator or from which vehicle the radiators were used in the Newell's  in that time ? That would be a bit easier to search.<br />
<br />
Thanks in advance.<br />
<br />
Pieter.<br />
Netherlands]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hello,<br />
<br />
I have a question, I need to replace my radiator on my Newell 1970 petrol engine ( 391 ) I can have a new frame put in with the old one, or I buy a new one which is probably better, but hard to find here in the Netherlands. Does anyone know what type of radiator or from which vehicle the radiators were used in the Newell's  in that time ? That would be a bit easier to search.<br />
<br />
Thanks in advance.<br />
<br />
Pieter.<br />
Netherlands]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[VSS error]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=8001</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 21 May 2024 00:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=350">David and Teresa</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[We took our first trip after finding the fault with an unlighted shift pad. It was the power wire in the harness coming from the transmission. With shift pad fixed, we left for a few days. All temps and pressures were fine, but we didn't have a speedometer or cruise control. I made a call to Newell, and they thought it was a speed sensor on the transmission. Once home, the ProDriver display showed VSS fault. This only displayed once, at the end of our trip.<br />
<br />
Newell suggested checking the connections at the sensors. So, soon I'll have to crawl under and check.<br />
<br />
Any ideas? What should I be looking for? How can you tell if there is a faulty sensor. Any input would be helpful.<br />
<br />
David]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[We took our first trip after finding the fault with an unlighted shift pad. It was the power wire in the harness coming from the transmission. With shift pad fixed, we left for a few days. All temps and pressures were fine, but we didn't have a speedometer or cruise control. I made a call to Newell, and they thought it was a speed sensor on the transmission. Once home, the ProDriver display showed VSS fault. This only displayed once, at the end of our trip.<br />
<br />
Newell suggested checking the connections at the sensors. So, soon I'll have to crawl under and check.<br />
<br />
Any ideas? What should I be looking for? How can you tell if there is a faulty sensor. Any input would be helpful.<br />
<br />
David]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Faults]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7996</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 17 May 2024 03:21:55 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4933">jbell18</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Gurus, <br />
I lost power today while driving my coach ( 2012 p2000 ) and the faults on their dash were as follows.   Odd thing is that the Intake temp didnt go above 118 degrees so not sure why the turbo inlet fault was present.  During the course of these faults , I lost power on the highway and had to cost to the shoulder. <br />
<br />
2789 15 Turbo Inlet Tmp/High<br />
91 2 Accel Position / Error<br />
102 18 Boost Pressure / Low]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Gurus, <br />
I lost power today while driving my coach ( 2012 p2000 ) and the faults on their dash were as follows.   Odd thing is that the Intake temp didnt go above 118 degrees so not sure why the turbo inlet fault was present.  During the course of these faults , I lost power on the highway and had to cost to the shoulder. <br />
<br />
2789 15 Turbo Inlet Tmp/High<br />
91 2 Accel Position / Error<br />
102 18 Boost Pressure / Low]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[VDO Calibration number]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7983</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2024 19:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=19">Richard</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Does anyone know the cal number for a VDO electronic speedo on a Detroit 60 with Allison trans? <br />
<br />
Mine lost its mind, and I don’t have a good starting number. Mine will not do the autocal that the newer ones do.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Does anyone know the cal number for a VDO electronic speedo on a Detroit 60 with Allison trans? <br />
<br />
Mine lost its mind, and I don’t have a good starting number. Mine will not do the autocal that the newer ones do.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Small leak in Coolant expansion tank]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7902</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 20 Mar 2024 15:21:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=3891">kmeinke</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[On a recent trip, I  noticed that the coolant expansion tank (in the rear engine area) had a pin hole size leak (Coach #1517) The tank is aluminum.  I did a temporary fix using JB Weld and it is holding for now.  I checked with Newell and they no longer use the same tank.  A new one is &#36;956 (Wow!) <br />
<br />
I am taking the coach there next month for the annual service and they seem pretty confident that trying to repair the leak by welding will work.<br />
<br />
Has anyone else had this issue with their coach<br />
<br />
Thanks]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[On a recent trip, I  noticed that the coolant expansion tank (in the rear engine area) had a pin hole size leak (Coach #1517) The tank is aluminum.  I did a temporary fix using JB Weld and it is holding for now.  I checked with Newell and they no longer use the same tank.  A new one is &#36;956 (Wow!) <br />
<br />
I am taking the coach there next month for the annual service and they seem pretty confident that trying to repair the leak by welding will work.<br />
<br />
Has anyone else had this issue with their coach<br />
<br />
Thanks]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[DPF engine codes / aftertreatment-sensor wiring harness.]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7850</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 29 Feb 2024 23:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=2696">xGE_97</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hey Gurus, <br />
Here is a fun one. <br />
<br />
Have any of you had to fix or replace the DPF aftertreatment harness or sensors on a CAT C15??<br />
<br />
My C15 has two codes for bank 1 DPF gas temperature. One each for input and output. Sometimes its "Voltage above normal" and sometimes its " Voltage below normal". I have it at a repair shop that has the CAT diagnostic software. That shop said the coach needs an aftertreatment jumper harness from the engine harness to temperature sensors, as well as a doc inlet clamp and gasket. Of course this info was obtained via CAN bus debugging, not taking anything apart (Shop is disassembling tomorrow). The shop called CAT to get parts, after which CAT said they don't make such a harness and we should call the coach maker. The shop emailed Newell who said they don't touch emission parts. I guess we'll see what we have when they disassemble tomorrow and look for part numbers, if any. I certainly hope the part numbers are on the bad parts, or the parts are obviously failed (such as a broken wire or connector, or sensor that measures out of range, when isolated.<br />
<br />
In any event, has anyone had to repair this area or have a wiring diagram? Photos would be great but Santa didn't bring 'em and I can't wait for the Easter Bunny.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hey Gurus, <br />
Here is a fun one. <br />
<br />
Have any of you had to fix or replace the DPF aftertreatment harness or sensors on a CAT C15??<br />
<br />
My C15 has two codes for bank 1 DPF gas temperature. One each for input and output. Sometimes its "Voltage above normal" and sometimes its " Voltage below normal". I have it at a repair shop that has the CAT diagnostic software. That shop said the coach needs an aftertreatment jumper harness from the engine harness to temperature sensors, as well as a doc inlet clamp and gasket. Of course this info was obtained via CAN bus debugging, not taking anything apart (Shop is disassembling tomorrow). The shop called CAT to get parts, after which CAT said they don't make such a harness and we should call the coach maker. The shop emailed Newell who said they don't touch emission parts. I guess we'll see what we have when they disassemble tomorrow and look for part numbers, if any. I certainly hope the part numbers are on the bad parts, or the parts are obviously failed (such as a broken wire or connector, or sensor that measures out of range, when isolated.<br />
<br />
In any event, has anyone had to repair this area or have a wiring diagram? Photos would be great but Santa didn't bring 'em and I can't wait for the Easter Bunny.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[VMSpc Questions]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7525</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Aug 2023 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4554">Roger in Home2</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hi, a member called me about a VMSpc kit a couple weeks ago. I have what he was looking for but misplaced the contact info. Please call me back.<br />
<br />
If you have a VMSpc question please give me a call. I was Silverleaf’s only vertically integrated kit supplier. These were ready-to-use, plug-and-play kits. Everything was ready to use right out of the box.<br />
<br />
Silverleaf cannot get chips for their data interface boxes (the JIB) so components are hard to come by. But I can help if you have functionality questions, screen designs and more.<br />
<br />
Roger<br />
651-438-5931]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Hi, a member called me about a VMSpc kit a couple weeks ago. I have what he was looking for but misplaced the contact info. Please call me back.<br />
<br />
If you have a VMSpc question please give me a call. I was Silverleaf’s only vertically integrated kit supplier. These were ready-to-use, plug-and-play kits. Everything was ready to use right out of the box.<br />
<br />
Silverleaf cannot get chips for their data interface boxes (the JIB) so components are hard to come by. But I can help if you have functionality questions, screen designs and more.<br />
<br />
Roger<br />
651-438-5931]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Emissions Light and Torque Derated Coach 1482]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7452</link>
			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jul 2023 12:40:03 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4050">hypoxia</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Had the Engine light and Emissions light come on and the torque immediately derated.  This is the Def problem where it does an initial derate and then if you keep driving it will eventually derate to 5 MPH.  I made it to the campground and using Cummins Insite was able to clear the codes but haven't resolved the problem.<br />
<br />
Cummins ISX CM2250<br />
Codes 3258 FMI5 SPN4340, Aftertreatment 1 DEF Line Heater 1 Circuit Current below normal or open circuit<br />
3261 FMI 5 SPN 4342 Heater 2 Circuit same detail<br />
3425 FMI 5 SPN 4344 Heater 3 Circuit, same detail<br />
3714 FMI 31 SPN 1569 Engine Protection Torque Derate<br />
<br />
edit to reflect current status. The auto reset DEF Line Heater fuse is in the engine compartment fuse box, it checks good but I changed that fuse to a normal fuse.  Line heaters ohms check good.  Could be caused by a bad DEF Controller also.  Travelling today........<br />
<br />
Suggestions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Had the Engine light and Emissions light come on and the torque immediately derated.  This is the Def problem where it does an initial derate and then if you keep driving it will eventually derate to 5 MPH.  I made it to the campground and using Cummins Insite was able to clear the codes but haven't resolved the problem.<br />
<br />
Cummins ISX CM2250<br />
Codes 3258 FMI5 SPN4340, Aftertreatment 1 DEF Line Heater 1 Circuit Current below normal or open circuit<br />
3261 FMI 5 SPN 4342 Heater 2 Circuit same detail<br />
3425 FMI 5 SPN 4344 Heater 3 Circuit, same detail<br />
3714 FMI 31 SPN 1569 Engine Protection Torque Derate<br />
<br />
edit to reflect current status. The auto reset DEF Line Heater fuse is in the engine compartment fuse box, it checks good but I changed that fuse to a normal fuse.  Line heaters ohms check good.  Could be caused by a bad DEF Controller also.  Travelling today........<br />
<br />
Suggestions?]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[engine coolant recovery tank]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=7342</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 May 2023 22:12:32 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=4147">Jack Houpe</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[On old coaches the plastic tanks or other wise items that are made of plastic deteriorate our tank was not leaking but it was a time bomb which would leave a mess going down the road or in your driveway, I was informed this by a couple crusty old guys no name mentioned <img src="https://newellgurus.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /> that had this happen so I heeded to their knowledge and changed ours out, went from old plastic to a stainless steel tank rather than fabricate a new tank I looked on ebay and found a fuel tank that was the same OD as the plastic one and ordered it, had to tig weld a 1/4" T fitting on the bottom and cut a hold in the top (which would be the side for a tank) and bingo it was done here are some pictures of the old and the new tank. Thanks to those guys who did a walk around our coach! If you don't have a tig then silver solder would work or hire it out. If your coolent recovery tank has no fluid in it your bound to overheat at some point.  Also you must leave the top cap loose so the recovery part will work, I cut a 1.5" hole and used a plumbing pipe stop to cover up the area where you would fill it but leave the cap on the fill loose. The diameter of the tank is 8" if you care to shop elsewhere but I used the same brackets that came with the plastic tank. <br />
<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[On old coaches the plastic tanks or other wise items that are made of plastic deteriorate our tank was not leaking but it was a time bomb which would leave a mess going down the road or in your driveway, I was informed this by a couple crusty old guys no name mentioned <img src="https://newellgurus.com/images/smilies/smile.gif" alt="Smile" title="Smile" class="smilie smilie_1" /> that had this happen so I heeded to their knowledge and changed ours out, went from old plastic to a stainless steel tank rather than fabricate a new tank I looked on ebay and found a fuel tank that was the same OD as the plastic one and ordered it, had to tig weld a 1/4" T fitting on the bottom and cut a hold in the top (which would be the side for a tank) and bingo it was done here are some pictures of the old and the new tank. Thanks to those guys who did a walk around our coach! If you don't have a tig then silver solder would work or hire it out. If your coolent recovery tank has no fluid in it your bound to overheat at some point.  Also you must leave the top cap loose so the recovery part will work, I cut a 1.5" hole and used a plumbing pipe stop to cover up the area where you would fill it but leave the cap on the fill loose. The diameter of the tank is 8" if you care to shop elsewhere but I used the same brackets that came with the plastic tank. <br />
<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[HELP! Batteries died & Aqua]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Apr 2023 11:32:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[We have a 2016 Newell- all batteries died for about 24 hours. We were able to use a car to get the engine jumped. The generator turns on and we drive around for about 45 mins to try and charge everything up. <br />
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The house batteries (?) are not starting. We don’t have aqua hot, heat, water pumps. The whole main control panel is dark where every other one is brightly lit. <br />
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Any suggestions?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[We have a 2016 Newell- all batteries died for about 24 hours. We were able to use a car to get the engine jumped. The generator turns on and we drive around for about 45 mins to try and charge everything up. <br />
<br />
The house batteries (?) are not starting. We don’t have aqua hot, heat, water pumps. The whole main control panel is dark where every other one is brightly lit. <br />
<br />
Any suggestions?]]></content:encoded>
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