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			<title><![CDATA[HWH HYDRAULIC LOCK PIN]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Hwh hydraulic slide lock pin, leaking on bedroom slide. MODEL # AP19920 S# 2349, does anyone have a part# for rebuild seal kit. <br />
Thank you,<br />
James Price<br />
Coach 647, 500 SD]]></description>
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Thank you,<br />
James Price<br />
Coach 647, 500 SD]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Removal of a broken slide cylinder]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Sun, 26 Feb 2023 01:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[So Gurus, I have a good one that Newell never heard of......<br />
I was in the middle of trying to run some electrical wires for the Lithium battery upgrade, and the first step was to put out the rear slide to see if there was a location that I could fish some wires near the cove moulding at the ceiling.  I pushed the extend button on the rear slide, and got no movement.  I was kind of sad because I have not had any issues with the slide operation.  I went out to the pump while my wife Sara hit the button, and the hydraulic pump did not sound like it was under any load and was free spinning.  I checked the fluid, and it was dry.<br />
After refilling the hydraulic pump reservoir, I went back in the coach to try again.  I hit the extend button for a maximum of a total of 30 seconds in a few bursts.  The reservoir was empty again.  I looked for leaking that I surely had, but I could not find any leak inside or outside the coach.  I subsequently went to lunch, and the dextron III magically appeared under and on the side of the coach in both front wheel wells and some in the center between the front wheel wells.  I was puzzled because I did not hit the front slide button at all.  <br />
I found out through researching on this site that looking at the schematics provided by others that any time the pump is on there are several circuits that have pressure in them both front and back independent of which slide you are trying to move.  Surprise, but this is as designed.<br />
The fun has begun and I have started on the work.  Here is a summary of what I found out to remove for rebuilding the cylinders.  I plan on rebuilding all of them, they have a few years on them and likely the seals have hardened and will start to have problems.  I would rather rebuild them now, as preventative maintenance instead of having leaks every now and again in the most inopportune times....<br />
To get the front slide front extend/retract cylinder out, there are access panels in both front wheel wells that are screwed in.  On the drivers side, the access panel is just above the top of the tire nearest the center of the coach wheel well.  On the passenger side, the access panel is just above the top of the tire near the outside of the coach.  The panels are approximately 10-12" rectangular.  On my coach, there is 2 access panels on the passenger side.  A second access panel was cut directly on the passenger side directly below the front hydraulic cylinder most of the way to the inside of the wheel well and is about 8" wide.  I think this may not be "stock" as the cylinder has a newer s/n than coaches that were build a few years after mine (Mr. Whites).  I did not have to remove the passenger side tire, but the drivers side had to be removed to access the cylinder rod retaining bolt.<br />
To get at the vertical flat head allen bolt, the slide needs to be extended almost fully.  I did not extend the slide fully, I only extended it enough to get at the vertical allen bolt in the access panel.  To extend the front slide, there is 2 actuators.  For re-assembly I was told after the fact that I should have extended the room fully, but I was afraid to push the room out onto the driveway.  It just might be harder to adjust, I guess I will find out.  The rear actuator is accessible in the ceiling of the bays by removing the insulation board by cutting at the metal tape neatly at the steel supports and pulling off at the velcro that is stuck to the outermost metal frame.  <br />
If you can, if you have only minor leaking, you could use the normal extension method to get the slide out.  I could not because of the massive leak I had on the front cylinder retract side.  I needed to use a hand pump.  To extend a functioning cylinder you need to install a "T" on the extension and retract hose connections of the cylinder. I would do this at the cylinder making sure to identify all hoses prior to disconnecting anything.  This was a  one of several tips from Richard and Tom.  On my non-functioning leaky cylinder, I capped the retract side of the cylinder and only connected the hose to extend fitting.  <br />
Prior to actually extending the slide, make sure that the air bladder seal is deflated.  I would add a ball valve upstream of the regulator in the bay under the slide.  Use the key switch on the slide control to release all pressure, you do not want to roll the seal.<br />
In order for the slide to stay in alignment and not rub on the sides of the coach, I could only have the slide with a maximum of 1" of misalignment  from front to back.  Luckily my pump had a valve that allowed me to easily switch between front and aft actuation, I would recommend this to eliminate the hooking up and disconnecting your hoses multiple times, it would be very messy.  Sometimes when I pumped the front cylinder, the back side of the slide would also come out some (and visa-versa).  Have a helper measure while you pump unless you want to walk miles.<br />
The pressure in the pump to get the slide to move was 1000psi or less. Once sliding I am guessing the pressure was about half to keep it moving.<br />
After the vertical flat head allen head bolt was reachable on the drivers side, I removed the bolt.  To get the cylinder out, it has to be fully (or almost fully) retracted.  I tried several things.  First I tried to use the hand hydraulic pump on the retract side of the cylinder.  This did nothing but leak, but please know that the block on the end of the cylinder did not start flowing until I reached about 1000psi.  I am guessing it is because of the check valve inside does not flow.  Next I tried to use a venturi vacuum evacuator hooked up to the extend side of the cylinder with the retract side open to atmosphere.  Again no luck in movement.  Then I removed the large nut on the cap end of the cylinder in the passenger wheel well and pushed it out of the bracket it was in.  Then I put the flat head bolt back in the hole (of course it did not line up but I only wanted a stop block to push against) and wedged a piece of wood to keep it in position.  I then opened both sides of the fittings of the cylinder and pushed against the cylinder by hand and surprise, the cylinder retracted.  To retract it fully I used and ratchet extension with a socket on the end to guide it on the cylinder cap end bolt and pushed until the piston bottomed out.  Prior to pushing, I threaded some bailing wire in the hose clamp that was existing on the cylinder and wired it shut.  I then pulled on the wire to retrieve the cylinder from the hole it was in.  I was then able to get the cylinder out of the coach easily.  No need to remove the tire on the passenger side.  I jacked the coach up so that I could easily reach between the tire and the wheel flare to work.  Of course, put the coach on jack stands.....<br />
I used about a roll of paper towels to sop up the leaky fluid as best as I could.  I also forgot to mention this is the first job so far that has drawn blood on the coach.  <br />
When out of the coach the leak was obvious.  I imagined it was a blown seal, a damaged fitting, or a blown tube that fed the retract side of the cylinder.  I was wrong on all three guesses.  The block on the end of the cylinder failed so it will have to be replaced.<br />
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I have a line on a complete cylinder that I can get and plan on using that one.  Does anyone have the block on the end of the cylinder that is in good shape?  I would be interested in trying to rebuild this cylinder if I can get that part of the assembly as well as getting the threads out of this cylinder.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[So Gurus, I have a good one that Newell never heard of......<br />
I was in the middle of trying to run some electrical wires for the Lithium battery upgrade, and the first step was to put out the rear slide to see if there was a location that I could fish some wires near the cove moulding at the ceiling.  I pushed the extend button on the rear slide, and got no movement.  I was kind of sad because I have not had any issues with the slide operation.  I went out to the pump while my wife Sara hit the button, and the hydraulic pump did not sound like it was under any load and was free spinning.  I checked the fluid, and it was dry.<br />
After refilling the hydraulic pump reservoir, I went back in the coach to try again.  I hit the extend button for a maximum of a total of 30 seconds in a few bursts.  The reservoir was empty again.  I looked for leaking that I surely had, but I could not find any leak inside or outside the coach.  I subsequently went to lunch, and the dextron III magically appeared under and on the side of the coach in both front wheel wells and some in the center between the front wheel wells.  I was puzzled because I did not hit the front slide button at all.  <br />
I found out through researching on this site that looking at the schematics provided by others that any time the pump is on there are several circuits that have pressure in them both front and back independent of which slide you are trying to move.  Surprise, but this is as designed.<br />
The fun has begun and I have started on the work.  Here is a summary of what I found out to remove for rebuilding the cylinders.  I plan on rebuilding all of them, they have a few years on them and likely the seals have hardened and will start to have problems.  I would rather rebuild them now, as preventative maintenance instead of having leaks every now and again in the most inopportune times....<br />
To get the front slide front extend/retract cylinder out, there are access panels in both front wheel wells that are screwed in.  On the drivers side, the access panel is just above the top of the tire nearest the center of the coach wheel well.  On the passenger side, the access panel is just above the top of the tire near the outside of the coach.  The panels are approximately 10-12" rectangular.  On my coach, there is 2 access panels on the passenger side.  A second access panel was cut directly on the passenger side directly below the front hydraulic cylinder most of the way to the inside of the wheel well and is about 8" wide.  I think this may not be "stock" as the cylinder has a newer s/n than coaches that were build a few years after mine (Mr. Whites).  I did not have to remove the passenger side tire, but the drivers side had to be removed to access the cylinder rod retaining bolt.<br />
To get at the vertical flat head allen bolt, the slide needs to be extended almost fully.  I did not extend the slide fully, I only extended it enough to get at the vertical allen bolt in the access panel.  To extend the front slide, there is 2 actuators.  For re-assembly I was told after the fact that I should have extended the room fully, but I was afraid to push the room out onto the driveway.  It just might be harder to adjust, I guess I will find out.  The rear actuator is accessible in the ceiling of the bays by removing the insulation board by cutting at the metal tape neatly at the steel supports and pulling off at the velcro that is stuck to the outermost metal frame.  <br />
If you can, if you have only minor leaking, you could use the normal extension method to get the slide out.  I could not because of the massive leak I had on the front cylinder retract side.  I needed to use a hand pump.  To extend a functioning cylinder you need to install a "T" on the extension and retract hose connections of the cylinder. I would do this at the cylinder making sure to identify all hoses prior to disconnecting anything.  This was a  one of several tips from Richard and Tom.  On my non-functioning leaky cylinder, I capped the retract side of the cylinder and only connected the hose to extend fitting.  <br />
Prior to actually extending the slide, make sure that the air bladder seal is deflated.  I would add a ball valve upstream of the regulator in the bay under the slide.  Use the key switch on the slide control to release all pressure, you do not want to roll the seal.<br />
In order for the slide to stay in alignment and not rub on the sides of the coach, I could only have the slide with a maximum of 1" of misalignment  from front to back.  Luckily my pump had a valve that allowed me to easily switch between front and aft actuation, I would recommend this to eliminate the hooking up and disconnecting your hoses multiple times, it would be very messy.  Sometimes when I pumped the front cylinder, the back side of the slide would also come out some (and visa-versa).  Have a helper measure while you pump unless you want to walk miles.<br />
The pressure in the pump to get the slide to move was 1000psi or less. Once sliding I am guessing the pressure was about half to keep it moving.<br />
After the vertical flat head allen head bolt was reachable on the drivers side, I removed the bolt.  To get the cylinder out, it has to be fully (or almost fully) retracted.  I tried several things.  First I tried to use the hand hydraulic pump on the retract side of the cylinder.  This did nothing but leak, but please know that the block on the end of the cylinder did not start flowing until I reached about 1000psi.  I am guessing it is because of the check valve inside does not flow.  Next I tried to use a venturi vacuum evacuator hooked up to the extend side of the cylinder with the retract side open to atmosphere.  Again no luck in movement.  Then I removed the large nut on the cap end of the cylinder in the passenger wheel well and pushed it out of the bracket it was in.  Then I put the flat head bolt back in the hole (of course it did not line up but I only wanted a stop block to push against) and wedged a piece of wood to keep it in position.  I then opened both sides of the fittings of the cylinder and pushed against the cylinder by hand and surprise, the cylinder retracted.  To retract it fully I used and ratchet extension with a socket on the end to guide it on the cylinder cap end bolt and pushed until the piston bottomed out.  Prior to pushing, I threaded some bailing wire in the hose clamp that was existing on the cylinder and wired it shut.  I then pulled on the wire to retrieve the cylinder from the hole it was in.  I was then able to get the cylinder out of the coach easily.  No need to remove the tire on the passenger side.  I jacked the coach up so that I could easily reach between the tire and the wheel flare to work.  Of course, put the coach on jack stands.....<br />
I used about a roll of paper towels to sop up the leaky fluid as best as I could.  I also forgot to mention this is the first job so far that has drawn blood on the coach.  <br />
When out of the coach the leak was obvious.  I imagined it was a blown seal, a damaged fitting, or a blown tube that fed the retract side of the cylinder.  I was wrong on all three guesses.  The block on the end of the cylinder failed so it will have to be replaced.<br />
<br />
I have a line on a complete cylinder that I can get and plan on using that one.  Does anyone have the block on the end of the cylinder that is in good shape?  I would be interested in trying to rebuild this cylinder if I can get that part of the assembly as well as getting the threads out of this cylinder.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<title><![CDATA[Valid Slide Motor - Fuse Blown]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jul 2022 11:57:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I posted the following in another thread but was not able to upload pictures. <br />
<br />
2005 #744 Three Valid Slides, Mid Entry <br />
<br />
I experienced a slide malfunction today. We had already parked, extended the slides, leveled the coach, and I failed to remove the waste tube from the bay under the left bedroom slide… time to retract the slide and undo everything I just did. Sorry happy campers, the big Cat 13 is firing back up. <br />
<br />
The Driver’s Side Rear Slide was being retracted by my wife while I was standing by outside to open the bay door when it stopped half way. The seals were deflated and vacuumed, it wouldn’t budge. There was no unusual sound, everything thing appeared normal. <br />
<br />
We had never experienced this before and started verifying the usual items, suspension in Travel Mode, ample air pressure, electrical power, and of course the engine was running. I flipped the slide switch in the cockpit (no for this issue)… Inspected the exterior of slide and of course the interior. Measured the front of the slide to the body and the aft side. They were within 1/8” of each other, 14” out. We tried to extend it without success. I pushed and pulled and jiggle the beast… everything was solid and not moving. <br />
<br />
Time to call the factory. It was a Wednesday afternoon, the team was still at work. Thank you Mark, you saved the day and quite possibly the trip. 105° out with a 1/2” gap all around the sliding hole in the coach. <br />
<br />
The issue is a blown fuse for the slide motor. The interior slide control screen did not indicate an error. <br />
<br />
In this coach, the Valid Slide electrical panel is located in the left basement bay opposite the entry door with the Spyder Wire electrical panels, window shades controls, and 120VAC electrical panel for select items. There is a fabric panel covering the fuse blocks. The panel is covered in the same material used in the bay sidewalls, ceiling, and floor. The cover is held to the aft side panel with Velcro. <br />
Once the cover is removed the fuse blocks can be identified. The pictures I’m posting should help understanding how the fuses are placed in the block. Gentle pull on the black tab releasing the fuse holder. Each fuse holder has two fuses, one in use and a spare. In this coach the driver’s forward slide is #1. Driver’s aft slide is #2. Aft curb is #3. If the slide has a raisable floor, there will be a fuse for it also. <br />
<br />
The blown fuse is a 4 amp Bussmann Series Fuse. The size is listed as 1 1/4”x1/4”.  I’ve ordered extra to add to my compliment a spare coach supplies. <br />
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I hope you don’t find yourself in this position when the kids are in a hurry to hit the amusement park but if you do, it’s a quick fix to get back to normal ops! <br />
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Take care!<br />
Kristi &amp; Jeff <br />
2005 45’ Newell   #744]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I posted the following in another thread but was not able to upload pictures. <br />
<br />
2005 #744 Three Valid Slides, Mid Entry <br />
<br />
I experienced a slide malfunction today. We had already parked, extended the slides, leveled the coach, and I failed to remove the waste tube from the bay under the left bedroom slide… time to retract the slide and undo everything I just did. Sorry happy campers, the big Cat 13 is firing back up. <br />
<br />
The Driver’s Side Rear Slide was being retracted by my wife while I was standing by outside to open the bay door when it stopped half way. The seals were deflated and vacuumed, it wouldn’t budge. There was no unusual sound, everything thing appeared normal. <br />
<br />
We had never experienced this before and started verifying the usual items, suspension in Travel Mode, ample air pressure, electrical power, and of course the engine was running. I flipped the slide switch in the cockpit (no for this issue)… Inspected the exterior of slide and of course the interior. Measured the front of the slide to the body and the aft side. They were within 1/8” of each other, 14” out. We tried to extend it without success. I pushed and pulled and jiggle the beast… everything was solid and not moving. <br />
<br />
Time to call the factory. It was a Wednesday afternoon, the team was still at work. Thank you Mark, you saved the day and quite possibly the trip. 105° out with a 1/2” gap all around the sliding hole in the coach. <br />
<br />
The issue is a blown fuse for the slide motor. The interior slide control screen did not indicate an error. <br />
<br />
In this coach, the Valid Slide electrical panel is located in the left basement bay opposite the entry door with the Spyder Wire electrical panels, window shades controls, and 120VAC electrical panel for select items. There is a fabric panel covering the fuse blocks. The panel is covered in the same material used in the bay sidewalls, ceiling, and floor. The cover is held to the aft side panel with Velcro. <br />
Once the cover is removed the fuse blocks can be identified. The pictures I’m posting should help understanding how the fuses are placed in the block. Gentle pull on the black tab releasing the fuse holder. Each fuse holder has two fuses, one in use and a spare. In this coach the driver’s forward slide is #1. Driver’s aft slide is #2. Aft curb is #3. If the slide has a raisable floor, there will be a fuse for it also. <br />
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The blown fuse is a 4 amp Bussmann Series Fuse. The size is listed as 1 1/4”x1/4”.  I’ve ordered extra to add to my compliment a spare coach supplies. <br />
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I hope you don’t find yourself in this position when the kids are in a hurry to hit the amusement park but if you do, it’s a quick fix to get back to normal ops! <br />
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Take care!<br />
Kristi &amp; Jeff <br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Rear Slide not moving]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5967</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 11 Mar 2021 23:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[I need to under-extend the slide (thanks Tom for the article links) to do some work around the seal.  The slide room worked perfectly this morning in both directions.  I extended the slide room fully and then retracted it about 1/2 way so I could get to the limit switch to make the slide room under-extend.  I removed the limit switch and attempted to retract the room.  Nothing, nada...  I can hear the pump running so I checked the fuses 85,86,87,90 as suggested in the Rosetta Stone of HWH diagrams.  The fuses were good (tested with an ohm meter).  I checked at the solenoids to make sure I was getting 12-volts to them - the unlock wire is energized when the retract or extend button is pushed (and the locks themselves are open/retracted).  The extend and retract wires are not getting anything... <br />
So I decided to jump the unlock wire to the retract solenoid just to check it but still nothing - a test light confirmed that there was 12-volts through the wire to the solenoid... <br />
Any ideas?  <br />
BTW, does anyone have the diagram showing which solenoid does what?  I can’t find it in the search... I think mine may be backwards now :-(  <br />
Thanks! Adrian]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[I need to under-extend the slide (thanks Tom for the article links) to do some work around the seal.  The slide room worked perfectly this morning in both directions.  I extended the slide room fully and then retracted it about 1/2 way so I could get to the limit switch to make the slide room under-extend.  I removed the limit switch and attempted to retract the room.  Nothing, nada...  I can hear the pump running so I checked the fuses 85,86,87,90 as suggested in the Rosetta Stone of HWH diagrams.  The fuses were good (tested with an ohm meter).  I checked at the solenoids to make sure I was getting 12-volts to them - the unlock wire is energized when the retract or extend button is pushed (and the locks themselves are open/retracted).  The extend and retract wires are not getting anything... <br />
So I decided to jump the unlock wire to the retract solenoid just to check it but still nothing - a test light confirmed that there was 12-volts through the wire to the solenoid... <br />
Any ideas?  <br />
BTW, does anyone have the diagram showing which solenoid does what?  I can’t find it in the search... I think mine may be backwards now :-(  <br />
Thanks! Adrian]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[How to Equalize the  Valid Slide Motors]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5959</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2021 19:08:53 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=1022">home@FredRobertson.com</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Can someone share the steps to equalize the  Valid Slide Motors?  I’ve done it a few times, but so infrequently, I can never recall how. <br />
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Last time, I learned that after rebalancing, you must retract and then extract. <br />
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Too bad we won’t have a FAQ section to answer questions like this.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Can someone share the steps to equalize the  Valid Slide Motors?  I’ve done it a few times, but so infrequently, I can never recall how. <br />
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Last time, I learned that after rebalancing, you must retract and then extract. <br />
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Too bad we won’t have a FAQ section to answer questions like this.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Valid Slide Service Manual]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=5045</link>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Jun 2019 13:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Running in 1997 bedroom slide an extra 2 inches to replace bedroom slide seal]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=4373</link>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2018 20:16:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Has anyone had to do this?  We need to pull in the slide an extra 2 inches to replace the seal. Anyone that has done that to give direction on what to unhook the ram stop to bring it in further?  Call 920-716-7248.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Has anyone had to do this?  We need to pull in the slide an extra 2 inches to replace the seal. Anyone that has done that to give direction on what to unhook the ram stop to bring it in further?  Call 920-716-7248.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Slides]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=2524</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 22 Sep 2015 18:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[A couple of weeks ago we spent a few days in the Kansas City area shopping and visiting friends/family.  On Saturday night (about 10:00pm) we decided to head for home (we only live about 70 miles from the KC metro area) and the #4 slide (front passenger) would not retract. I made an Emergency Call to Newell and Cressley and Mark both called back with advice. Thinking that this was a voltage problem because I only had about 12.5 volts, I played around with the Inverters (I have 2) and got it up to 14.1.  Also thought that we might be low on hydraulic fluid, so went to get some and while I was gone my wife decided to try to retract the slide and in it came!.  She said it was strictly because it needed "a woman's touch"!<br />
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A week a go Thursday I had secured an appointment at Newell. They very quickly told me that they couldn't fix the problem and that I'd have to take it to HWH in Moscow, Iowa, who manufactured the slide.  We got an appointment for last Thursday, was there at 7:00am and the Service Manager said that this was the first 4-slide Newell that he had seen.  It has 7 Modules so he had to "think about this a while."  (<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The reason he had never seen a 4-slide coach was that it was shortly after our coach was built that Newell went to the Vlad Slide.</span>) He called an Engineer to come over and I had in the coach a set of plans for the whole slide system. They were able to pin-point the module and check it out and found that one of the modules had a problem, and it was not the module that Newell thought it was.  They pulled the module, sent over to their Engineering/manufacturing department, had it rebuilt and it was back in less than 2 hours.  I also told them about my problems I was having with the Leveling System.  They identified some problems, replaced a hydraulic line, and discovered problems with the magnets that lock the pins on the #1 Slide, repositioned the magnets, made more adjustments and got the Leveling System working like it should.  Also got lights on the Control Panel for the Leveling System working.<br />
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They worked on the coach from 7:00am until a little after 4:00pm, fixed everything that I told them was wrong and the charges were about 1/2 what I was expecting.  If anybody has HWH Slides on their coach and have problems, my recommendation would be to take a trip to Moscow, Iowa and see the guys at HWH.  What a wonderful experience to have the people that built the system and understand work on it.  I also asked them what they charged to replace a bladder on the slide and they gave us an estimate of &#36;2400 - &#36;2500, which is 40% Less than what we just paid at Newell.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[A couple of weeks ago we spent a few days in the Kansas City area shopping and visiting friends/family.  On Saturday night (about 10:00pm) we decided to head for home (we only live about 70 miles from the KC metro area) and the #4 slide (front passenger) would not retract. I made an Emergency Call to Newell and Cressley and Mark both called back with advice. Thinking that this was a voltage problem because I only had about 12.5 volts, I played around with the Inverters (I have 2) and got it up to 14.1.  Also thought that we might be low on hydraulic fluid, so went to get some and while I was gone my wife decided to try to retract the slide and in it came!.  She said it was strictly because it needed "a woman's touch"!<br />
<br />
A week a go Thursday I had secured an appointment at Newell. They very quickly told me that they couldn't fix the problem and that I'd have to take it to HWH in Moscow, Iowa, who manufactured the slide.  We got an appointment for last Thursday, was there at 7:00am and the Service Manager said that this was the first 4-slide Newell that he had seen.  It has 7 Modules so he had to "think about this a while."  (<span style="font-style: italic;" class="mycode_i">The reason he had never seen a 4-slide coach was that it was shortly after our coach was built that Newell went to the Vlad Slide.</span>) He called an Engineer to come over and I had in the coach a set of plans for the whole slide system. They were able to pin-point the module and check it out and found that one of the modules had a problem, and it was not the module that Newell thought it was.  They pulled the module, sent over to their Engineering/manufacturing department, had it rebuilt and it was back in less than 2 hours.  I also told them about my problems I was having with the Leveling System.  They identified some problems, replaced a hydraulic line, and discovered problems with the magnets that lock the pins on the #1 Slide, repositioned the magnets, made more adjustments and got the Leveling System working like it should.  Also got lights on the Control Panel for the Leveling System working.<br />
<br />
They worked on the coach from 7:00am until a little after 4:00pm, fixed everything that I told them was wrong and the charges were about 1/2 what I was expecting.  If anybody has HWH Slides on their coach and have problems, my recommendation would be to take a trip to Moscow, Iowa and see the guys at HWH.  What a wonderful experience to have the people that built the system and understand work on it.  I also asked them what they charged to replace a bladder on the slide and they gave us an estimate of &#36;2400 - &#36;2500, which is 40% Less than what we just paid at Newell.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Slides Hydraulic fluid]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=2147</link>
			<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2015 22:56:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[Does one check the HWH hydraulic fluid on a 99 Newell with the slides in or out.  On my 02 Foretravel the front slide needed to be in and the rear slide needed to be out because of different mechanisms.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Does one check the HWH hydraulic fluid on a 99 Newell with the slides in or out.  On my 02 Foretravel the front slide needed to be in and the rear slide needed to be out because of different mechanisms.]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[HWH slide room material]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=1342</link>
			<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2014 11:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
			<dc:creator><![CDATA[<a href="https://newellgurus.com/member.php?action=profile&uid=12">rheavn</a>]]></dc:creator>
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			<description><![CDATA[Here are three HWH manuals that will assist in understanding, troubleshooting and fixing problems with HWH hydraulic slides.  A synchronizing cylinder is used with the two cylinder salon slides.  The bedroom slide is a one cylinder mechanism.  <br />
<br />
Hope this is helpful........................<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37955.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37955.pdf</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37939.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37939.pdf</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml21958.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml21958.pdf</a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[Here are three HWH manuals that will assist in understanding, troubleshooting and fixing problems with HWH hydraulic slides.  A synchronizing cylinder is used with the two cylinder salon slides.  The bedroom slide is a one cylinder mechanism.  <br />
<br />
Hope this is helpful........................<br />
<br />
<a href="http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37955.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37955.pdf</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37939.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml37939.pdf</a><br />
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<a href="http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml21958.pdf" target="_blank" rel="noopener" class="mycode_url">http://www.hwhcorp.com/ml21958.pdf</a>]]></content:encoded>
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			<title><![CDATA[Single cylinder room extension hydraulic flow diagram]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=696</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:10:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This applies to Newells with HWH slides only.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This applies to Newells with HWH slides only.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Hydraulic solenoid valve arrangement for two slide]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=695</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 18:05:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This is for Newells with HWH slides only.  For one slides, just pay attention to the room 1 solenoid valves.  This is a 2 slide room arrangement.<br />
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This is for Newells with HWH slides only.  For one slides, just pay attention to the room 1 solenoid valves.  This is a 2 slide room arrangement.<br />
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			<title><![CDATA[Connection diagram for bedroom slides w/locks]]></title>
			<link>https://newellgurus.com/showthread.php?tid=694</link>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:59:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This diagram only applies to HWH slides. I know it says Prevost, but this is the diagram for a Newell, single ram slide, commonly used in the bedroom.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This diagram only applies to HWH slides. I know it says Prevost, but this is the diagram for a Newell, single ram slide, commonly used in the bedroom.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<title><![CDATA[Hydraulic line connection diagram of Newell level floor slides with locks]]></title>
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			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:32:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[This diagram only applies to HWH slides.  I know it says Prevost, but this is the diagram for a Newell, drop floor slide, like is commonly used in the salon.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[This diagram only applies to HWH slides.  I know it says Prevost, but this is the diagram for a Newell, drop floor slide, like is commonly used in the salon.<br /><!-- start: postbit_attachments_attachment -->
<div style="padding:4px 0px;"><span class="inline-block vmiddle"><!-- start: attachment_icon -->
<img src="https://newellgurus.com/images/attachtypes/image.gif" title="JPG Image" alt=".jpg" />
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