07-22-2014, 09:35 AM
Hi Harry-
To continue on what Tom was touching on...these coaches are not an investment. They cost money to maintain, operate, upgrade, or just sitting. Denise and I recently purchased #422 from Ron and it was previously owned by Dave...they spent money on the coach and my list is growing too...we wanted a fulltime lifestyle with amenities/quality only found in Newell or Prevost (those being shells converted)...for many reasons Newell became our only choice. The folks on this forum are one of those reasons. Newell service and 24/7 tech line in another...plus go to Miami,OK and witness what they do...I lived in NE Indiana and went to most all RV manufacturers and companies that supply them...no comparison.
Price/value are really more tied to what you want...example how good of deal would you need on a coach that had the ugliest paint scheme (in your eyes)? Less the coat of a plain paint job? Or a custom 4-5 color paint job? Heck someone might just love the 'ugly' and pay a premium...all in the eye of the holder.
Another example is 1 1/2 bathrooms and slides...we didn't want nor need the extra weight/space...plus our slides never have issues...Lol and I only have one toilet to clean/maintain...and my wife loves the rear closet.
Many wouldn't consider a no slide 18year old coach...so they will never be priced 'right' for that buyer.
Decide what are 'Must Have's' and then find all coaches that fit your primary criteria and compare selling prices...I called many sellers and buyers after deal is done and asked what the final price was. Asking prices are all over the range and really have no bearing on what price you can buy at...I looked at Tom's 2002 when still in Ohio and it was priced waaaaay higher just a few months before they drove it to his home for him to look at.
Keep in mind: private sellers have no commission, overhead, profit, and minimal marketing costs...plus dealers rarely know the coaches as well as the owner...
Owners have emotional ties to the coach and the reasons they want or need to sell that can muddy getting to a 'fair' market price.
On fair market price, ask Newell if they will buy the coach outright and if yes at what price...also see if they carry similar coaches in their used offerings and the asking price...note: they price at a premium to cover the warranty costs provided.
We were ready to buy and #422 hit most of our needs and the colors/upgrades/condition etc matched close enough with the price...
Newell Life is a good life, but it ain't free nor without issues...just like everything else.
Good news is the prices are always going down...you will know prices will be going up when Newell starts buying up older coaches, restoring, and reselling them and/or diesel goes below $1 gal...
To continue on what Tom was touching on...these coaches are not an investment. They cost money to maintain, operate, upgrade, or just sitting. Denise and I recently purchased #422 from Ron and it was previously owned by Dave...they spent money on the coach and my list is growing too...we wanted a fulltime lifestyle with amenities/quality only found in Newell or Prevost (those being shells converted)...for many reasons Newell became our only choice. The folks on this forum are one of those reasons. Newell service and 24/7 tech line in another...plus go to Miami,OK and witness what they do...I lived in NE Indiana and went to most all RV manufacturers and companies that supply them...no comparison.
Price/value are really more tied to what you want...example how good of deal would you need on a coach that had the ugliest paint scheme (in your eyes)? Less the coat of a plain paint job? Or a custom 4-5 color paint job? Heck someone might just love the 'ugly' and pay a premium...all in the eye of the holder.
Another example is 1 1/2 bathrooms and slides...we didn't want nor need the extra weight/space...plus our slides never have issues...Lol and I only have one toilet to clean/maintain...and my wife loves the rear closet.
Many wouldn't consider a no slide 18year old coach...so they will never be priced 'right' for that buyer.
Decide what are 'Must Have's' and then find all coaches that fit your primary criteria and compare selling prices...I called many sellers and buyers after deal is done and asked what the final price was. Asking prices are all over the range and really have no bearing on what price you can buy at...I looked at Tom's 2002 when still in Ohio and it was priced waaaaay higher just a few months before they drove it to his home for him to look at.
Keep in mind: private sellers have no commission, overhead, profit, and minimal marketing costs...plus dealers rarely know the coaches as well as the owner...
Owners have emotional ties to the coach and the reasons they want or need to sell that can muddy getting to a 'fair' market price.
On fair market price, ask Newell if they will buy the coach outright and if yes at what price...also see if they carry similar coaches in their used offerings and the asking price...note: they price at a premium to cover the warranty costs provided.
We were ready to buy and #422 hit most of our needs and the colors/upgrades/condition etc matched close enough with the price...
Newell Life is a good life, but it ain't free nor without issues...just like everything else.
Good news is the prices are always going down...you will know prices will be going up when Newell starts buying up older coaches, restoring, and reselling them and/or diesel goes below $1 gal...
1996 Coach #422 Fulltiming