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(12-04-2015, 05:51 PM)Richard Wrote:  Ok,

The toilet flapper and the air door are both supplied from the Ping tank in the rear passenger rear well. I think, but not 100 percent sure that the way that the air system is plumbed is like this: there is a regulator at the 12v air compressor, both the 12v compressor and the supply air line feed into that regulator. That is how you keep the pressure constant on the potty and door regardless of which compressor is running. 

So, the door closing slowly and the potty flapper not closing are signs that the air pressure is low at the regulator. Find the regulator at the 12v air compressor and read the gauge on it. Increase the pressure and see what happens. I don't remember off hand what mine is, but I think it's about 60 psig. 

So for Shamu here is an explanation of how the 12v, 120v, and engine compressor are all tied together.  The engine compressor obviously supplies pressure to all systems, feeding first to the desiccant cartridge in the driver tag well before going into the "wet" brake tank and then on to he rest of the tanks. The 120v compressor supplies air into the overall system too. I have seen different ways that Newell used to tie in the system to the 120 compressor. The 120v compressor is usually set to turn on around 70 psi and off at 90 psi using a garden variety we'll pump switch usually located in the generator blower housing bay. And then there is the 12v compressor that feeds the wheel well ping tank only. There is a check valve that keeps the 12v compressor from supplying the rest of the system, but allows the engine compressor or 120v compressor to pressurize the Ping tank.

Back to Shamu's initial problem. Let's check that proper air pressure is present before tearing into the system.

As usual, I'm often wrong but seldom in doubt.
Thanks Richard,
I checked the 12v comp. gauge when the problem first came up, and it read 60 psi, but checking it yesterday, it read about half of that. Not sure why. I would think if low, the pump should come on and bring it up. I turned off the 110 pump a few days ago, because the toilet flapper will not work with it on. Not sure what to do next.

(12-04-2015, 06:36 AM)qcj Wrote:  You can buy the drain cocks at NAPA.  If your tanks don't already have them take a plug in with you.  My large round tanks already had drain cocks but all the cross member tanks had plugs.  The pipe size was 1/2" but NAPA call them 3/8" because that is the size of the drain hole.  I hope this helps.
Are those the "pull cord drain cocks" sold at NAPA?
Thanks,
John

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Air operating systems - by qcj - 07-24-2014, 09:38 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Ozarkguy - 07-24-2014, 10:06 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 07-24-2014, 10:12 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Ozarkguy - 07-24-2014, 11:12 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 07-24-2014, 11:30 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 07-24-2014, 11:34 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 06:33 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 07-24-2014, 11:47 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 07-24-2014, 11:48 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-02-2014, 10:02 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 08-02-2014, 10:36 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by folivier - 08-02-2014, 10:37 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-02-2014, 11:11 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-03-2014, 10:34 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 08-03-2014, 11:30 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-03-2014, 12:32 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Ozarkguy - 08-03-2014, 12:45 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by folivier - 08-03-2014, 01:56 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-03-2014, 02:39 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 08-03-2014, 03:09 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-03-2014, 03:45 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by folivier - 08-03-2014, 04:22 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-03-2014, 05:19 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 08-03-2014, 05:43 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 08-03-2014, 06:06 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 08-03-2014, 06:16 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-03-2014, 06:40 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by arcticdude - 08-03-2014, 08:45 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 08-04-2014, 06:42 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by lbrachfe - 08-04-2014, 07:00 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-04-2014, 10:10 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by folivier - 08-04-2014, 10:15 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 08-04-2014, 11:03 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 11-28-2015, 03:37 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by HoosierDaddy - 11-28-2015, 05:54 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 11-28-2015, 07:55 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 11-29-2015, 06:08 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 11-29-2015, 08:35 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 11-29-2015, 10:24 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by HoosierDaddy - 11-29-2015, 11:16 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 11-29-2015, 12:47 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 11-29-2015, 12:58 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 11-29-2015, 02:19 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 11-29-2015, 02:48 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 11-29-2015, 03:18 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Trainer - 11-29-2015, 03:50 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 11-29-2015, 04:56 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Trainer - 11-29-2015, 05:52 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 11-29-2015, 06:00 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by HoosierDaddy - 11-29-2015, 06:54 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by folivier - 11-30-2015, 06:58 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 11-30-2015, 09:22 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 11-30-2015, 09:40 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 11-30-2015, 11:27 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 11-30-2015, 11:41 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 11-30-2015, 05:58 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 11-30-2015, 07:08 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 11-30-2015, 08:58 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 12-01-2015, 05:34 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 06:51 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 11:15 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 12-01-2015, 06:21 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 07:11 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 12-01-2015, 08:20 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 11:29 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Fulltiming - 12-01-2015, 03:58 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 08:37 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 12-01-2015, 05:01 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 12-01-2015, 05:03 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 12-01-2015, 05:11 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-01-2015, 08:27 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Fulltiming - 12-01-2015, 10:30 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 12-02-2015, 04:54 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 12-02-2015, 05:09 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-02-2015, 08:54 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 12-03-2015, 07:47 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-03-2015, 08:33 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 12-03-2015, 10:07 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-04-2015, 07:23 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 12-04-2015, 05:46 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 12-04-2015, 06:36 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by bikestuff - 12-04-2015, 06:55 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-04-2015, 07:32 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 12-04-2015, 05:51 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-04-2015, 07:44 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 12-05-2015, 04:15 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-07-2015, 10:56 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by qcj - 12-05-2015, 06:35 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by DogKnots - 12-05-2015, 08:32 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 12-08-2015, 05:09 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 12-08-2015, 10:28 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-08-2015, 07:31 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 12-09-2015, 09:04 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-10-2015, 09:47 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 12-11-2015, 06:03 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 12-11-2015, 06:20 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by folivier - 12-11-2015, 06:14 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by DogKnots - 02-02-2016, 02:13 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Fulltiming - 02-02-2016, 03:08 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by 77newell - 02-03-2016, 06:49 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 02-22-2016, 04:35 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 02-22-2016, 06:13 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 02-22-2016, 11:49 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 02-23-2016, 05:20 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 02-23-2016, 06:00 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 02-23-2016, 06:34 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 02-24-2016, 06:38 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by rheavn - 02-24-2016, 07:52 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 02-24-2016, 09:17 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by 77newell - 02-24-2016, 03:16 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by 77newell - 02-25-2016, 12:39 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Shamu406 - 03-07-2016, 10:47 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Land Yacht - 03-02-2017, 08:46 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 03-03-2017, 04:50 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Chester Stone - 03-03-2017, 08:45 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Land Yacht - 03-03-2017, 09:39 PM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 03-04-2017, 06:46 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Land Yacht - 03-04-2017, 09:00 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 03-05-2017, 07:02 AM
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RE: Air operating systems - by encantotom - 08-03-2018, 10:56 AM
RE: Air operating systems - by Richard - 08-03-2018, 12:41 PM
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