[encantotom]

I went down the path of having a 50' long pit with steps and grates to cover it etc. in the end, i am very glad i didnt do it.

but...i didnt really have a choice. the building department said no, or at least it was no unless there was ventilation, sump pump, on and on. and the estimated price was getting extremely high.

and in the end, it makes that garage space unusable for anything else.

tom