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Hose adaptor
#1
With the sewer hose ending in a fitting for going to the sewer drain, I'd like to have an adaptor stored away so that I can hook up to a honey wagon when needed. Can someone recommend an adaptor that looks like the sewer drain and has a twist connector on the other end?

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Mick
Mick & Renee
2009 Newell 45’ 8” #1277, C15 625HP 12-speed ZF
Full time working and traveling. 
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#2
A common practice among the racing circuit is to fit a five gallon bucket with a mating fitting for the sewer hose.  The wagon guys can pull the effluent at a rate that keeps the bucket level from overflowing.  This keeps their vacuum from damaging your hose or tank.

I don’t know if this answers your question since the fitting you are working with is unknown.  There are many gurus who can help.  Could you post a picture of your hose end or something to work from?
Gordon Jones
2000-45'-2slide-#567
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#3
How can the 'sucker' truck damage my hose or tank? I have never had this done but will need to in the next week - I can start a new thread if needed...
Karen & Adrian Abshire 
1998 2 slide 45' Newell towing a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon Unlimited and a 2006 Mercedes SLK320 for wifey. 
Prior: 1985 Foretravel ORED 35, 1988 38' Foretravel U280, 2000 Foretravel 42' U320, 1990 Bluebird Wanderlodge WB40
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#4
The "sucker" truck or honey wagon uses vacuum to suck the contents out of your tank since his tank level is higher than your tank. Your tank has a vent on the roof, depending on the vacuum pressure he sucks out the content with, the vent may or may not allow enough air to rush into the tank to keep the pressure equal. If not it could cause your tank to collapse. IMO not worth the risk, I like Gordon's idea. Can I use your bucket Gordon?
Forest & Cindy Olivier
1999 Foretravel 36' U320
former owners 1998 Newell 45' 2 slide #486 

former owners 1993 Newell 39' #337 
2011 Chevy Tahoe RZR 570LE

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#5
yea gordon, when i need to use it will you bring it over too?

thanks

tom
2002 45'8" Newell Coach 608  Series 60 DDEC4/Allison World 6 Speed HD4000MH

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#6
I like the bucket idea, but it sounds pretty messy! I did hook up to a honey wagon and we used some 3" wide rubber tape to connect them together. He was very careful to control the flow so that the hose didn't collapse. I was hoping there was an elegant solution, but it doesn't seem like a common problem.

The head is a Waste Master, which is nice.


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Mick & Renee
2009 Newell 45’ 8” #1277, C15 625HP 12-speed ZF
Full time working and traveling. 
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#7
The end you have is Waste Master (as you stated).  The older systems were Dupree which has a ring that twist locks onto the valve’s outlet.  A hose was made up that locked onto the valve and the other end used either Dupree or valterra adapter that was attached to the bottom of a bucket permanently.  The slide valve is usually air opened and closed, giving no flow control.  This meant the effluent flowed into the bucket quickly and the waste operator opened his suction in order to keep the bucket from overflowing.

I have not worked with the Waste Master end fitting and do not know how you would attach it to a bucket.  waste Master also uses a “cam-lock” style fitting on the opposite end.  Perhaps procuring a mating cam lock (if there is one on your 2009) and making up your own hose and bucket arrangement would work.  

I will ask the race team guys how they are doing their waste procedures with the Waste Master end fitting.
Gordon Jones
2000-45'-2slide-#567
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#8
I use the Rhino Flex system.  You can purchase this adapter to attach to the end of your Rhino Flex hose....

   


   

Just used this a few days ago when I had my tank pumped out.  Typically the pumper will have a Valterra fitting, and this fitting I use is also Valterra.

Clarke and Elaine Hockwald
1982 Newell Classic, 36', 6V92 TA
2001 VW Beetle Turbo
Cannondale Tandem
Cannondale F600
Cannondale Bad Boy
Intense 5.5 MTB
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#9
Have more pictures coming for visuals.

The picture below shows a square five gal with a Valterra style slide valve bolted directly to one of the flat surfaces.   The valve has the "hook" side of the most common fitting.  There is a hose with a mating connector for the valve (not shown yet, waiting) of which the other end is slipped over the tailpiece of the Waste Master and hose clamped.  The waste truck operator puts his nozzle into the square five gal and draws a vacuum while the effluent is filled into the five gal from the coach.  The opening in the five gal is large enough to allow ample air to flow in.

This picture comes courtesy of Bobby Rahal's coach driver, Brent Burton.

   
Gordon Jones
2000-45'-2slide-#567
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#10
Ok, I was visualizing an open white 5 gallon bucket with all sorts of effluent floating and flying around! Haha!
Forest & Cindy Olivier
1999 Foretravel 36' U320
former owners 1998 Newell 45' 2 slide #486 

former owners 1993 Newell 39' #337 
2011 Chevy Tahoe RZR 570LE

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