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Brake control with toad or trailer
#1
We have been looking into towing a vehicle behind our vintage 1985 coach and are stumbling over the question of braking.  The way I see it is I am adding a lot of weight (7,000 pound) I need to stop or hold back on hills if I tow 4 down and I am not able to use the toads brakes.  If I go the trailer route I add additional and independent brakes.  The 4 down seems much faster for connecting (advantage) then a trailer but I get brakes (the big one) and storage with the trailer.  

Do the trailer brakes rally add to overall braking power?
Is there a system that would let me use the toads brakes?
Would my coach handle a toad without additional brakes (say through the I40 basin between NC and TN)?
Mark and Melanie
1985 Newell 40’
#75 ? (still not confirmed)
First motor coach
#2
My research 4 years ago showed that most states require toad brakes for any vehicle over 3000 lbs. I was worried more about liability if involved in accident than getting a ticket.

For quick disconnect, I decided to spend the dollars for the Airforce One system that connects the toads brakes to the coach air brakes. Worked well but expensive.
Mike & Jeannie Ginn
2000 Newell #555
2013 Chevy Avalanche
#3
Having brakes on the toad will lessen stress on the tow bar as well. Check out the Family Motorcoach association. Lots of good info. Most RV suppliers advertise there. Their magazine has articles u will find helpful.

Fmca.com
1993 Newell 45' 8V92,towing an Imperial open trailer. FMCA#232958 '67 Airstream Overlander 27' '67GTO,'76TransAm,'52Chevy panel, 2000 Corvette "Lingenfelter"modified, '13 Grand Cherokee.
#4
I can tell you that our "classic" coaches with a brake system designed 50 years ago have a limited stoping capability compared to modern Semi trucks on the highway with all wheel disk brakes and an antilock system. I found out what an extra 7000 lbs feels like in our coach when the brakes on the  enclosed trailer we tow quit working. I knew immediately we had a problem. Stopping distance was greatly increased.
Guy & Sue
1984 Classic 40' #59
#5
Ok guess I should have Googled toad brakes first but didn’t know they existed. I just Googled it and see the requirements per state and all the options. I thought towing 4 down only required a tow bar but after the reply’s see I would need a supplemental braking system and that the exist. Yep I feel stupid now but thanks for the quick replies.
Mark and Melanie
1985 Newell 40’
#75 ? (still not confirmed)
First motor coach
#6
What Guy said .
Chris
1986 #89
VIN 007
Chris and Sharon Hand 
#7
Another option is the Ready Brake system which utilizes a surge brake built into the towbar or a standalone surge brake that slides into your coach receiver then your towbar slides into the surge brake. Then you have a cable that attaches to your toad that is attached to your toad's brake pedal. Easy to hook/unhook and is proportional since whenever your toad is going faster than your coach it activates the toad's brakes to slow it down to match the coach speed.
I've been using this for about 10 years now and pleased with it.
https://www.readybrake.com
Forest & Cindy Olivier
1999 Foretravel 36' U320
former 1998 Newell 45' 2 slide #486 

former 1993 Newell 39' #337 
2011 Chevy Tahoe 

RZR 570LE
#8
Mark, Next time u feel stupid go back and read some of my early posts!!!!! Or even some of my later posts!!! You will feel better!!! We've all been there and are glad to help. B-)
1993 Newell 45' 8V92,towing an Imperial open trailer. FMCA#232958 '67 Airstream Overlander 27' '67GTO,'76TransAm,'52Chevy panel, 2000 Corvette "Lingenfelter"modified, '13 Grand Cherokee.
#9
if we tallied up all my questions that were silly, i would easily win the award for the most.

even just now i asked darlene what day it was. good news is that it is saturday......5th saturday. life is good

tom
2002 45'8" Newell Coach 608  Series 60 DDEC4/Allison World 6 Speed HD4000MH

#10
At Honda tech almost 50 years ago , the instructor said in his overview : " The only stupid question is the one you don't ask ". 
Chris
1986 #89
VIN 007
Chris and Sharon Hand 


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