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Prepping for flooring and wall paper
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Today was a good day to get a ton of stuff removed in preparation for flooring and wall papering. It is my birthday but that didn't stop me even though my wife wanted my company. I did tell her I'd be in the bus if she wanted to join me!  Did I say these things are well put together? The linoleum is as it was when I pulled the original carpet. I did not cause the tears or scraped chunks. Is it going to be ok to glue down corked backed vinyl planks to the existing linoleum flooring?


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I think Newell cornered the market on that linoleum !
I put down waterproof vinyl planks without glue , not a great idea as we get some "creeping" . The Lifeproof planks are 5mm ( I think ) and have a soft vinyl backing , not cork .
You have been busy  !

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Chris and Sharon Hand
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Check to see if the new adhesive will stick to that old vinyl. Some adhesives are not compatible

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Simon, I picked up a few hits and misses in my flooring wallpaper remodel.

One, I used a high end very cushy underlayment before I glued the LVT down. The cushion of the underlayment was a mistake in that it gives ever so slightly I can feel the movement between the seams on the slide out floor if I am in bare feet. I know that is OCD and you don’t have a slide, but evaluate carefully any underlayment you may think about using.

You will need to install wallpaper liner before putting up the final wall paper. It is a heavy plain white paper designed to hide any surface irregularities and provide a good bonding surface for the wall paper. It is also a bit wider to avoid seam alignment issues with the final wall paper. Use border adhesive instead of normal adhesive, you want all the bond you can get.

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
99 Newell, 512
Maverick Hybrid Toad
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Thanks Guys! Yes,I was curious about the wall paper liner in that mine currently has that. I am not sure if the wall paper company included that in their quote. What I do know is that they included removal of old, cleaning walls, filling holes and installing new. Regarding the flooring, I was thinking of just glueing down the cork backed vinyl planks to the linoleum. As I look at the flooring, it appears there used to be tile as there are remnants of thinset from the stairs back to the bathroom. My build sheet does not show tiled flooring. I think thats why the linoleum has chunks missing from the removal. (Richard, I am beyond OCD sometimes, so thanks for the tip!) If I weren't so obsessed, this bus would not look like it does now!!

--Simon
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I installed 1/8” luan then glued luxury vinyl tile.

1993 Newell (316) 45' 8V92,towing an Imperial open trailer or RnR custom built enclosed trailer. FMCA#232958 '67 Airstream Overlander 27' '67GTO,'76TransAm,'52Chevy panel, 2000 Corvette "Lingenfelter"modified, '23 Grand Cherokee.
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I am glad I'm not the only crazy one to strip almost everything out to to the flooring! I hadn't thought of adding a new sub floor. Did you glue and nail down the Luan? Also on your steering column which looks identical to mine, do you find it has some "flex"? I was thinking of adding an additional support at the base of the column to the steel tube behind it. My wheel flexes up and down despite everything being tight with no metal fatigue.

--Simon
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Hi Simon,

If you are able to leave the vinyl down, you will save a lot of time. My vinyl was so chewed up from all the staples (gazillion) and I was concerned that it would be too uneven for the LVP. I ended up taking all the lino up. What a PIA that was. Lino came up with no problem but not the backing that was glued to the subfloor. I scraped and scraped, and scraped. Did I forget to say how much of a pain it was. Ended up using my heat gun to soften the glue. Wish I would have thought about that on the first half.
I did not glue my PVP but some do. At the end of the day, the effort was well worth the results. Can't wait to see the after pics.

Tony and Cindy Frazier
1992, #300   Wink
2023 Ford Broncos Bad lands Toad
Columbia, SC
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Simon. I stapled the luan down as recommended by the LVT manufacturer. I don’t plan to ever change it but if needed I could rip up the luan and start over. I would not recommend removing the vinyl as installed by Newell unless absolutely necessary.
I removed steering column and had it rebuilt locally. There is a slip joint and a u-joint there that needs greased periodically. That improved steering “feel” The actual column seems to feel solid .

1993 Newell (316) 45' 8V92,towing an Imperial open trailer or RnR custom built enclosed trailer. FMCA#232958 '67 Airstream Overlander 27' '67GTO,'76TransAm,'52Chevy panel, 2000 Corvette "Lingenfelter"modified, '23 Grand Cherokee.
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My steering column flexes at the bottom where it is unsupported. Overall, the shaft within is tight with no play. It flexes up and down just beneath the red mounting collar. Thinking I should make a mount to secure the lower portion of the outer steering column to the steel chassis member behind it.

Also, now that I pulled the carpet, I notice more creaks and groans when I walk in. Do you notice more sounds? Maybe I am just oversensitive! My brother sent me a video on the new Prevost where they guarantee the original owner there will never be rattles for life. That bus was absolutely gorgeous. Shouldn't have watched the video... (One can dream though)


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