04-04-2013, 05:42 PM
hi all,
there has been much discussion among us over the years as to the price of the air valves that have the solenoids on them on the 6 pack manifold front and rear. some coaches have 18 of them, some have 12. they go for 120 bucks apiece.
most of us have bought one or two over the years. i bought a complete air suspension setup that was new old stock for a monaco a year ago that had 6 of them on a hwh manifold. they have a different looking coil, but the round valve body is the same.
the HWH part number is RAP1940. so far we have only found them direct from HWH or from Newell.
i talked to HWH and showed them a picture of the ones i got from the manifold i bought and they said they used that coil for a little while.
richard figured out a way to rebuild the seal/seat, which is what leaks on these things over time. but, since high quality MAC valves are like 40 bucks it seems like we should be able to find a suitable substitute for what we have.
i have seen 3 different version of the same valve. the originals were KIP valves (but what i think is that the metal, actual valve body with the seals on have been made by the same company all along and that the solenoid is the piece that changes.) the original one appears to be brass and the newer one is a silver color.
the original ones on my 02 are this and the new one i bought from newell was the same
av a5983-103
12v 9.5w (the detrol one i have is 16w)
125 psi
3/32 orfice
the ones i got on the NOS manifold had a Detrol Fluids product solenoid on it. i called and talked to them and sent pictures and they said they still make the solenoid. and they said they used to bundle it with the valve body but do not any more. they said the metal valve body was made by firestone. they said they would see if they could get a part number for the valve body but i am not optimistic.
what we need almost all the time is the valve body and not the solenoid, you can reuse that..
so can we pool our resources and big brains to find it somewhere?
i will contact firestone and see if anyone can help me there.
any other thoughts?
tom
there has been much discussion among us over the years as to the price of the air valves that have the solenoids on them on the 6 pack manifold front and rear. some coaches have 18 of them, some have 12. they go for 120 bucks apiece.
most of us have bought one or two over the years. i bought a complete air suspension setup that was new old stock for a monaco a year ago that had 6 of them on a hwh manifold. they have a different looking coil, but the round valve body is the same.
the HWH part number is RAP1940. so far we have only found them direct from HWH or from Newell.
i talked to HWH and showed them a picture of the ones i got from the manifold i bought and they said they used that coil for a little while.
richard figured out a way to rebuild the seal/seat, which is what leaks on these things over time. but, since high quality MAC valves are like 40 bucks it seems like we should be able to find a suitable substitute for what we have.
i have seen 3 different version of the same valve. the originals were KIP valves (but what i think is that the metal, actual valve body with the seals on have been made by the same company all along and that the solenoid is the piece that changes.) the original one appears to be brass and the newer one is a silver color.
the original ones on my 02 are this and the new one i bought from newell was the same
av a5983-103
12v 9.5w (the detrol one i have is 16w)
125 psi
3/32 orfice
the ones i got on the NOS manifold had a Detrol Fluids product solenoid on it. i called and talked to them and sent pictures and they said they still make the solenoid. and they said they used to bundle it with the valve body but do not any more. they said the metal valve body was made by firestone. they said they would see if they could get a part number for the valve body but i am not optimistic.
what we need almost all the time is the valve body and not the solenoid, you can reuse that..
so can we pool our resources and big brains to find it somewhere?
i will contact firestone and see if anyone can help me there.
any other thoughts?
tom
2002 45'8" Newell Coach 608 Series 60 DDEC4/Allison World 6 Speed HD4000MH