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Stuck engine will not keep running
#21

John, I’m not sure if this applies to your coach but I had a fuel issue that was difficult to find. I ended up running a piece of garden hose down the side of the coach to get it to the shop. It turned out that the inside of the fuel line had deteriorated and collapsed , limiting fuel flow. After that line was replaced I installed a fuel pressure gauge on the engine to help diagnose fuel issues in the future.

1993 Newell (316) 45' 8V92,towing an Imperial open trailer or RnR custom built enclosed trailer. FMCA#232958 '67 Airstream Overlander 27' '67GTO,'76TransAm,'52Chevy panel, 2000 Corvette "Lingenfelter"modified, '23 Grand Cherokee.
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#22

attachment describes work to fix fuel issue

John and Diane Dyer
#717 Tampa show coach of 2005- Detroit 60 14L. Quad slides Front entry
Conifer CO
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#23

Glad you got it going again John. I suspected that the hose on the coach I worked on was also the problem since I was able to blow through the check valve but I did not want to risk it so I replaced the line and the check valve and all was well.

Jeff LoGiudice
Temple Terrace, Fl & Loudon & Monterey, TN
1984 Bluebird Wanderlodge PT40
1998 Newell 2000 #490
1986 MCI/TMC 102A3 (sold)
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#24

Let me take a shot at summarizing the symptoms so that someone in the future may get to a diagnosis much quicker than my own experience, and the experience of other owners.

Engine dies for no apparent reason.
No error codes on DDEC.
CEL and SEL lights on dash, light up, and go off when key is switched on. This tells you the DDEC is getting power and functioning well enough to start the engine.
Examination of the fuel filter shows one of two things:
Fuel all the way up to the top of the clear bowl. The filter is plugged. Change the filter.
OR No fuel is visible in the clear bowl.
If no fuel visible in the clear bowl. Remove the vent cap on top and fill with clean diesel or ATF.
If engine starts, stumbles, and dies again. Observe the level in the bowl. If it disappears again, there is a problem somewhere between the fuel tank and the fuel filter.

It could be a number of things:
Fuel hose, or fittings, or gasket at fuel bowl is leaking air. Fill with fuel again, and look for air bubbles when running.

Of course try new fuel filter and gasket. Assuming that doesn’t fix it, the other diagnostics are not going to happen on the side of the road. You need to get to safety and avoid a tow if at all possible. This will be ugly, but use a hose from the tank to the fuel filter. Fuel hose is best, garden hose will work. Cobble fittings on one end to mate with the inlet on the fuel filter. Run the other end into the tank inlet. Zip tie it all in place. It is not an easy task to run the hose over the tank and through the coach to the fuel filter. So run it outside the coach. You will have to figure out a way to prime the hose. Vacuum guns work, transfer pumps (aka Harbor Freight) work, wouldn’t recommend Georgia credit card unless diesel is a preferred mouthwash. When you run the engine out of fuel, it will take a number of extended cranks to get fuel to the injectors.

You will feel like Jed Clampett, but this will get you to safety.

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
95 Newell, 390  Ex caretaker
99 Newell, 512  Ex caretaker
07 Prevost Marathon, 1025
Maverick Hybrid Toad
Inverness, FL (when we're home Cool )
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#25

As I mentioned earlier I had to do the garden hose down the side of the coach. What I didn’t mention is that my hose was long enough to reach the generator tank but not the main tank so I managed to drain the gen tank but the fuel return was going into the main tank!!! I ran the gen tank out of fuel about five miles from the shop but had plenty of fuel in the main tank. A buddy brought enough to complete the trip….. In the cold October rain. This somewhat embarrassing episode is offered only to enlighten and entertain ….

1993 Newell (316) 45' 8V92,towing an Imperial open trailer or RnR custom built enclosed trailer. FMCA#232958 '67 Airstream Overlander 27' '67GTO,'76TransAm,'52Chevy panel, 2000 Corvette "Lingenfelter"modified, '23 Grand Cherokee.
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