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98 Jack Stands, Jacking and Bottle Jack
#51

OK, in my opinion
DO NOT DO what you have pictured.

In the first picture, put your jack stands where the bottle jack is. Do not put them on the bottom of the bushing where they were shown in the picture. That will move and possibly move off the stand or destroy the bushing.

An alternate location for the jack stands would be located behind and inboard of the front tires. Locate the horizontal steel tubing that runs at the bottom of the fender wheel behind the front tire. Follow it inboard until you see where it is welded to a large vertical steel tube. Put the jack stand under that weld point. Do the same for the other side.

Your floor jack will lift the wheel if the coach is supported on jack stands.

I am sorry I do not have pictures, nor do I have a Newell to take pictures.

A sanity check after getting the coach on jack stands is to use the leveling system and exhaust all the air from the air bags on the end that you are working under. In other words you are placing all the weight on the jack stands without being under the coach to test their effectiveness.

Look at the end of the A arm close to the shock mount. You will see a protrusion between the A arm and the wheel that sticks straight down. Put the bottle jack on that protrusion.

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
95 Newell, 390  Ex caretaker
99 Newell, 512  Ex caretaker
07 Prevost Marathon, 1025
Maverick Hybrid Toad
Inverness, FL (when we're home Cool )
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#52

Thank you Richard!  You have a better memory than me! I think I found most of the locations you suggest…
For lifting the wheels off the ground - put jack stands (1 or 2?) under the middle section of the coach (this seems ‘tippy’ to me)… or should I get two hydraulic jacks, put one under each a-arm near the shock, like you suggested, and then a jack stands in the middle.  That way I can lift up each wheel with a jack under each one for support (or maybe use the other stand for the opposite shock/wheel…
I followed the steel tubing like you suggested but not sure if it is correct - it is the 2 pictures with all the arrows on it leading to basically the same square box I was using before… maybe I didn’t see what I was supposed to… as you know, I’m not great at following directions but I did read what you wrote several times…
I have to wait until tomorrow to get the coach turned around in the barn so I can pull the genset out. That requires either buying enough antifreeze or water to make the DDEC system happy enough to not show mean lights on the dash… I’m watching the engine temp very closely also…
Pictures loaded out of order - 3 and 4 should be reversed


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Karen & Adrian Abshire 
1998 2 slide 45' Newell Coach
Prior: 1985 Foretravel ORED 35, 1988 38' Foretravel U280, 2000 Foretravel 42' U320, 1990 Bluebird Wanderlodge WB40
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#53

First pic is of a steering assist cylinder.

second pic Yes safe to put a bottle jack there.

Third pic yes on jack stands there. It is not very wide. I prefer the locations behind the tires.

I feel inadequate in getting you to the best location. I feel like a person is talking louder and louder to someone who doesn’t speak his language.

Let’s start again, cause I have no idea what you are conveying in picture three. Look behind, as in towards the rear of the coach, the front tire. Twelve inches or so above the ground will be a piece of steel that runs horizontally across the coach. It will form the bottom of the fender well. Following that piece of steel, look inward towards the center of the coach. About 24 inches in, you will see a large piece of square tubing to is vertical to the horizontal steel. It may be partially covered with the spray foam. Directly under that junction is the best location for the jack stand on each side.

Can someone with easy access take a pic and post it for Adrian.

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
95 Newell, 390  Ex caretaker
99 Newell, 512  Ex caretaker
07 Prevost Marathon, 1025
Maverick Hybrid Toad
Inverness, FL (when we're home Cool )
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#54

THIS? See picture please…


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Karen & Adrian Abshire 
1998 2 slide 45' Newell Coach
Prior: 1985 Foretravel ORED 35, 1988 38' Foretravel U280, 2000 Foretravel 42' U320, 1990 Bluebird Wanderlodge WB40
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#55

Here is a picture of mine, jack stands are under the center section between the a-arms and the bottle jack is under the a-arm:

   

Jeff LoGiudice
Temple Terrace, Fl & Loudon & Monterey, TN
1984 Bluebird Wanderlodge PT40
1998 Newell 2000 #490
1986 MCI/TMC 102A3 (sold)
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#56

I marked the photo with green.
   


Your sway bar bushings are trashed. 

Why are you taking the wheels off? Is this connected to you leak?

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
95 Newell, 390  Ex caretaker
99 Newell, 512  Ex caretaker
07 Prevost Marathon, 1025
Maverick Hybrid Toad
Inverness, FL (when we're home Cool )
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#57

Thanks Jeff and Richard, I’ll mark these spots so I remember in the future… I appreciate your patience and actually reading my gibberish… Richard, How can you tell from the picture that the sway bar bushings are trashed? I look at the picture and they look fine to me but I’m not an expert on underneath the coach…

Karen & Adrian Abshire 
1998 2 slide 45' Newell Coach
Prior: 1985 Foretravel ORED 35, 1988 38' Foretravel U280, 2000 Foretravel 42' U320, 1990 Bluebird Wanderlodge WB40
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#58

Richard, at this point I’m not removing the wheels at this time, I just wanted to make sure I’m jacking at the right points in order to not bend anything on the coach. I DO highly value your recommendations and advice (as always)!

Karen & Adrian Abshire 
1998 2 slide 45' Newell Coach
Prior: 1985 Foretravel ORED 35, 1988 38' Foretravel U280, 2000 Foretravel 42' U320, 1990 Bluebird Wanderlodge WB40
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#59

I think Richard is seeing a shadow on the sway bar bushing, at first I saw the same thing and was thinking the same thing. Zoomed in a bit and see now it’s just a shadow.

Jeff LoGiudice
Temple Terrace, Fl & Loudon & Monterey, TN
1984 Bluebird Wanderlodge PT40
1998 Newell 2000 #490
1986 MCI/TMC 102A3 (sold)
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#60

Jeff thinks it’s a shadow. I think it’s oblongated bushings. You will have to look at the rear of the bushing to see if it’s a shadow or gap.

Richard and Rhonda Entrekin
95 Newell, 390  Ex caretaker
99 Newell, 512  Ex caretaker
07 Prevost Marathon, 1025
Maverick Hybrid Toad
Inverness, FL (when we're home Cool )
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