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ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098
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Found this document tonight. 

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My gut tells me not to overthink the rear cylinder. 
It is critical that the forward and rear cylinders are synchronized using the gauge tools and that there is no air anywhere in the system. 
Beyond that, one side does the turning, the other is a damper. The accumulator maintains equal pressure in all four chambers when the forward master cylinder is in the straight forward position. In the straight forward position the entire system is in equal pressure.
Axle caster and tires toe-in, help center the axle to go straight forward when the turning is done.  My opinion.

REVISION - NEW INFORMATION 

BOY WAS I WRONG… NOT A DAMPENER AT ALL… THE DESIGN ABSOLUTELY HAS A CENTER-POINT AND THE CYLINDER KNOWS WHERE IT IS.

CENTERING CYLINDER IS AN UNDERSTATEMENT. YES, THE CYLINDER WILL SEEK TO CENTER THE TAG AXLE AND INFLUENCE THE STEER AXLE AS WELL. 

IN A NUT SHELL, WITH THE WEIGHT OFF OF THE TAG TIRES AND THE STEERS ON PADS, I STARTED THE ENGINE AND TURNED THE STEERING FULL LEFT AND SHUT OFF THE ENGINE. 
IMMEDIATELY THE THE STEERING WHEEL WANTED TO ROTATE BACK TO THE RIGHT. WHEN I FINALLY LET GO OF THE WHEEL, IT ROTATED RAPIDLY BACK TO CENTER. I PERFORMED THE SAME EXERCISE TO THE RIGHT WITH THE SAME RESULTS. 

I WILL POST MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THE OLD CYLINDER I DISASSEMBLED. I WILL NOT ATTEMPT TO EXPLAIN HOW IT WORKS. I’TS PFM TO ME?.

Kristi & Jeff King
Bentonville, Arkansas
#744 2005 45’ Newell Coach 
ZF Suspension/Active Steering Tag Axle
CAT-13 ACERT KCB Engine 525HP 1642 ftlbs Torque Cat Compound Turbocharger 43.5 psi
Allison HD4000MH Transmission with PTO drive.
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ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by jdkskyking - 03-13-2022, 07:44 AM
RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by jdkskyking - 09-07-2022, 05:46 PM
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RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by Richard - 11-24-2022, 03:54 PM
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RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by jdkskyking - 09-07-2023, 02:47 AM
RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by hypoxia - 09-07-2023, 05:00 AM
RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by jdkskyking - 09-07-2023, 05:50 AM
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RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by RobSC - 04-01-2024, 08:33 AM
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RE: ZF Suspension-RL-85/E and RL85/A Steerable Tag Diagram/Steering Gearbox 8098 - by Richard - 04-20-2024, 04:46 AM
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