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I've removed the Air Force One system from my coach, and it's free to a good home. Having not used it personally, I can't guarantee that it's complete. But a good start for someone who wants to tow four down. Installation manual included. No baseplate for car. Local delivery in Phoenix or western Colorado.
Chuck
Our Microphor toilet was not cycling correctly, the flapper valve only staying open for about 1 second. I removed the air & water sequence valve and installed an overhaul kit. Well, that did not make any difference and with closer inspection I found that air was leaking at the base area of the sequence valve. There is a hairline crack running between the 2 threaded port holes for the 2 bottom air lines, it is very hard to see and could only be found with soapy water and while having the valve partially removed from toilet and leaving some air lines connected to test. Mullaney sells an air & water sequence valve body #39386 but not yet confirmed by Mullaney that this body will work on a LF210 by just swapping parts from the old valve and overhaul kit. He wasn't sure about an internal check valve. So my question is, has anyone used valve body 39386 on a LF210? Or as a long shot, does anyone have a older style black body like mine they would sell? Picture has pen pointing to crack area and what my valve looks like.
Thanks!
I believe I have a regulator issue.
As I drive, I go down to 11.9 V and back to 14.3 V. It may stay at 11.9 for 10 minutes or so, so its not just a quick second that its low.
I don't believe it should ever get below 13.2 while driving, correct ?
Electrical is not my strong point. Should I do more testing ? Or is it automatically the regulator ?
I have been in the market for new batteries for several months now. The coach came with Interstate FLA batteries which was a mixed bag of older and new batteries from the RV dealership. I did not really like the FLAs so that eliminated debating the FLA. That left AGM or Lipo...running the numbers and warranties of the current offerings I came up with the following;
- Trogan Motive AGM - $650 each or $4,173, 2yr warranty
- Crown AGM - $710 each or $4558, 3yr replacement warranty
- Lifeline AGM - $668 each or $4,288 1yr replacement plus 2yr prorated
- Oreilly's - $396 each or $2,548 (note: these batteries are made by Deka) 1yr warranty
- Battle Born Lipo $979 or $5,874 for six, 10 yr warranty
I came across this new manufacture of a 12.8, 100 AH Lipo battery that has a promotion going on for the first 350 batteries...https://fourvolt.com/products/lifepo4-battery....at $379 each or $2,274.....list price at $779. Well that got my attention for some further investigation. These batteries are made up of individual cells like that of BB batteries use however they are completely assembled in China with an internal BMS just like the BBs hence the cheaper price. Knowing this and several other risks as follows;
- New company
- Bleeding edge manufacturing-not sure what they have done before...could have production issues to iron out.
- waiting on 350 units sold to start a production run....June ship date.
- Product support????
- Being a new company the units are going to be built as solid as they can to be able to compete....possibly even more so in order to gain a foothold in the market.
- Free shipping
- With the promotion price point they are cheaper than Oreilys....if they crap out on me in a couple years i'd be no worse than with Oreily's
- 10 yr warranty
The following emails are my conversation with 4 Volt;
Hi Stephen,
Thank you for your e-mail.
We recommend charging between 14.3V > 14.6V. Most standard chargers are able to provide this charge for fully recharging your battery.
It's only important to check that a lead-acid charger doesn't have a desulphating mode, and in case you should turn that off. Most GEL/AGM modes do not have this, but you should always check the documentation for the charger in question, just to make sure you are within the above mentioned voltage range.
We have recently posted an update on our homepage explaining the effect of the COVID-19 situation. For more info let me send you a direct link to our update here:
https://fourvolt.com/blogs/news/covid-19...pre-orders
To update since the above post, we have been pushed back a couple of weeks which means deliveries should start taking place during June.
We're currently waiting to close in the final pre-orders in the following 1-2 weeks (to reach the production target), then begin production, following distribution center delivery.
Once the production goes out to our distribution partner (Amazon MCF), delivery will take aprox. 2-5 days, but again - that would most likely be in June based on how things are currently looking. As soon as we are able to give a precise time-frame we will let all our customers know.
The highly discounted price is of course part of it still being pre-orders at this stage and prices are scheduled to go up soon as we move to production.
If you mistakenly made a pre-order and expected earlier delivery of your battery, I do apologize and I will be happy to cancel and refund your order immediately.
Please don't hesitate to get back in touch if you have any further questions.
Best regards,
Nicholas L.
Hi Stephen,
Thank you for your reply.
As for warranty concerns, we offer a 10 year warranty, in case of any defects you can return the battery to our distribution partner (or we will find the nearest possible alternative locally to you). We will then either replace/refund/repair depending on the issue. I can't give you an exact timeline, that would depend on the issue, but most likely we would simply replace it with a new model and figure out the defects on our end, unless there would be clearly visible damage caused by misuse.
First step would always be trying to identify and resolve the issue between us, if that fails then the above would follow. Naturally things that would be excluded would be: Damage due to improper installation, Environmental damage (exposure to extreme hot or cold temperatures, fire or freezing, or water damage), Damage caused by collision, Product that has been opened, modified or tampered with, under-sized for the application use.
I hope this gave you some more insight.
Please don't hesitate to get back in touch if you have any other questions.
Best regards,
Nicholas L.
Hello all,
I’m having issues with the HWH air suspension controls.
The air system appears to be working because it airs up to ride height when you start the coach. The green travel light is always on but that is all. The only button that works is the all lower. You can lower it but that’s it. When you touch the air bottom to self level or manual nothing happens at all and none of the up down arrows do anything.
Thanks for any advice or...!
The molding piece right behind the driver door was coming loose so I unscrewed the little screw holding it in place. The molding was very loose and I noticed that several of the large pop-rivets that hold the molding on were sheared. I slid the molding off since I didn’t want it falling off going down the road. So now I’m to the point of wanting to put the molding back on and am in a quandary. I called Newell and they said i would need to remove the engine bay cover at the rear of the coach and slide the LONG piece of molding out and then put the the other in. Well this made sense until I tried it. Seems there is an aluminum trim/stop in the end of the short molding that makes it impossible to push over the plastic clips that hold the molding on. Any ideas? Do I have to remove the main cabin door to get the piece to go on?
Well we bought a coach a few months ago, but it wasn't a Newell. We did purchase a 2005 Blue Bird M450. The biggest decision was the location of the galley on the drivers side, passenger side dinette, plus full use of the coach with all the slides in. I will continue to hang around to see what is going on.
Thank you all for the information you provided us.
04-18-2020, 01:11 PM
Forum: Coaches for Sale (Please read the info in the Category description)
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Hello all! We are looking to purchase a Newell in the year range 2007-2011. The coach must have Allison automatic transmission, street side galley, prefer 1.5 bath but not a deal breaker, lower the miles the better. Lots of research has been done and we are ready to purchase now, cash buyers. Looking for a coach not listed on the traditional sites and would prefer to speak with the owner vs a dealer. Will travel anywhere. Please send me a PM for my phone number.
Thank you
I had the brake splitter valve replaced a few weeks ago along with getting a new solenoid for the dump valves and now all my air systems are working great and all systems are holding air pretty well! My normal routine since buying this coach has been to let the 110v compressor run the air up to about 110psi and then use the leveling system to fully raise the coach. This has worked for several years with no problems (I know not to let the air run too long so as to not damage the air bags).
Planning to head home from Virginia (mandatory work from home now) so have everything ready and coach is running great (and looks good too). The rear drive/tag raised perfectly but the front is refusing to budge, it looks like the bags are all the way down. I drove the coach a few weeks ago and as I recall (which is always iffy), the front was in the correct travel position. Is there a solenoid/valve somewhere I can check for this or is this part of the six-pack at the rear of the coach? I’ve never really had air problems until the past couple of months when i started fixing them (amazing how that works, huh?)...
I’ve called Newell and Tommy is supposed to return the call but thought you guys might have an idea...
Thanks in advance!
we recently purchased a 2012 Newell from the factory since they are only about 60 miles from us, we traded in our 2006 Monaco and couldn't be happier. I have several questions since the units do not come with an owners manual and I think the guys are getting tired of me calling them all the time (great service team at Newell). so how do I post a question on operating the coach and the do's and dont's

