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I have thought about writing this post for some time. As we each look or looked for our coaches the question at some point after we have decided we are interested in a particular coach is "what would i be willing to pay for it". then the next question is "what is it worth"?

in our world those are very subjective questions and there are as many opinions as there are people giving the opinions. i looked or a long time for a wanderlodge before i bought my first newell. it is the same question there.

back to used newells.

i get contacted quite a bit as to what any particular coach is worth. i try to stay vague for a few reasons. first is that often the buyer and prospective seller are either people i know or who are on this forum.

second is that the answer ultimately is always "it depends"

it depends on:

1. condition
2. if you like it a bunch
3. does your wife or husband love it
4. can you afford it
5. how much are you willing to pay and not feel bad about it
6. how much work are you willing to put into it. a lot or a little
7. is it from a dealer or private party. (in az, private party sales pay no sales tax so it makes a huge difference in the final price) for that reason i will only buy from a private party and not a dealer, but that is different from state to state.
8. is it a distress sale of any kind or not. this could be someone who needs to get rid of it or many other reasons. my 02 was owned by a company who just didnt want it any more. they had others to use.
9. are the high dollar things that need replacing regularly ok or need replacing? tires and batteries can cost you $10k on a tag axle coach and AGM batteries.
10. how much can you find out about the coach? when i was looking i was usually concerned when someone didnt know squat about their coach. in my case my 90 the previous guy knew alot. for my 02, i only dealt with a "user" and not owner and the user knew very little about it. so i had to take that into consideration on the value as i didnt know what it would need. my 02 ended up needing quite a bit, but it still turned out to be a good value in the end.

btw, these are in no particular order

most of the coaches that those of us have on this forum are mostly at least ten years old back to jimmys old 78 that is 35 years old. so there is going to be something that isnt "brand new" looking on most of them. (some exceptions here too)

so if you want a pristine coach that needs nothing, you are likely not going to get a screaming deal (but not always true there either). i have talked to several of you who have been looking and some are willing to dive in and work on things and others are wanting to get something that doesnt need much of anything

if you are willing to put time and money into it, then you are likely to get a better deal. my 02 had no bedroom. it had a large, really nice sectional couch with a pull out sleeper (the sleeper was terrible) and a desk on the opposite side. for me, i could only see a vision of where the bed was going to be and that i and my friends would build it. i am not done, but it has turned out quite nice so far.

back to value. in the end these things are worth what you are willing to pay for it. very few of the same year are the same in features and in price.

the best thing to do is to either have someone look at the coach you are interested in or to go look at it yourself. i have had a number of people go inspect coaches for me in the past.

so in the end, it is worth what it is worth to you. once you buy it, only look forward. enjoy it and learn about it.

they are amazing machines but take a do-it yourselfer and a wad of cash to own or an even bigger wad of cash if you hire someone to do things.

the listing prices are all over the map for these rigs. and it could be for many reasons. the owner owes that much, people are emotionally attached to it (like was to my 90), they dont know what it is worth, or they want to move it fast and on and on.

please feel free to chime in, as this is only one persons opinion.

later

tom-

i was at my tire shop getting new front tires on bills coach this week and i asked the shop manager (it is a truck tire shop) about tire dressings. he said never to use anything with petroleum distallites in it. he said the best tire dressing is to use sugar water. i had never heard of that. he said it will look great. but he wasnt responsible for bugs.....

i might try it on my truck to see how it works.

later

tom

Hi to all our ladies out there. Happy Mothers Day. I am so grateful for Darlene who has been the mother of our 4 great kids and grandmother to our 2 grandkids. I also think of my own Mom who has been gone for 33 years. I was telling Darlene as we were coming home from church this morning that I still miss my mom and that we are fortunate to have Darlenes mom still alive. i also know there are many that "Mother" many more than their own kids. I am grateful to have one of those as well that has looked over me like a real mom for many many years.

Thanks to all the Moms out there!

Tom

I have qestion regarding mount to hide and colapse 40" tv in one of the narrow bay!
I have good 24" of Bay width and plenty space lenght way.

But try to figure out what shape TV mount would be best to do the trick.

I would mount the bracket on one bay side wall the tv in colapse would just line up along the one wall. Than to use it you would pulled out of the bay ture it and would be position same spot as when the bay doors are closed.

I know of MonoPrice , they sell many good brackets, but before I buy I will ask anyone who has same set up in their coach.

Les

So last fall when we had the RV for a short time the generator would always start on the second try. Just tried it today and it would start but then die as soon as I took my finger off of the start button. Tried a number of times. If I held my finger on the switch just a tad longer it would run but again as soon as I took my finger off of the switch it would die. Now another thing is that I have a switch for a fuel pump on my dash. It is off right now and I honestly don't recall what position it was in last year. Not sure if it is for the generator or not but I turned it on and could hear a pump but the generator would still not continue to run after starting.

Ok guys got any suggestions for me and can you tell me what the fuel pump switch is for?

                            I am in the process of updating the electronic in my 04 changing over to HD. I will be removing the tracvision because I do not have enough room on the roof for both. I also have a 42" Zenith Plasma monitor which will go to. If anyone is interested I can deliver to Spearfish and if not I will be listing on Ebay. Both pieces are in good shape but do not support HD. Please make an offer. I will be in NV and UT until moving to Gillette.

Located in Houston, TX 90,000 miles

Located in Phoenix, AZ. $339,000 and only 49,000 miles. Awnings all Girards including roof rail mounted. New tires and chassis batteries.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/2004-NEW...-110324986

35 foot with Detroit Diesel. $20,500 Located in Michigan.

http://www.rvtrader.com/listing/1977-New...-110320262

Well, just go ahead and call me stupid, but after replacing the blower motors, the control board, and the brain box, I made one trip to Miami (OK), to pick up my trailer I had painted to match my coach there. Aqua Hot worked great, until the trip home. I got tired and stopped at a rat hole RV park for the night.. I got there after dark, and while trying to get to my spot, I had to swing extra wide to clear other campers with my trailer. Being that you cannot see out of my Newell after dark ( I wonder if they are all that way), I drove through some grass that had a tree stump hidden in it. Being that my Newell qualifies as a "low rider", the Aqua Hot exhaust pipe found the stump. It broke off, and water was draining out the bottom. It seems that I ruptured the boiler tank. So... back to Newell I go to get that repaired... estimated to be 5K.Needless to say, I had my wife along for the trip, and I had to explain to her why we had no water for the toilet, or shower. I am getting disgusted with my Newell. If it continues to be this problematic, it may be up for sale. I have, so far spent around 75,000.00 getting it roadworthy. I realize that this last episode was driver error, but enough already...