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  Valid air 6 pack valve rebuild kits (6X1053)

Posted by: encantotom
01-21-2025, 09:56 PM
Forum: Air Operated Systems and Leaks
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I am going to offer this out to you Valid 6 pack valve users.  if you are interested, fine.  if not thats fine too.  newell switched to valid from hwh in 2004.  

I ordered from Valid the 6 pack valve rebuild kit (6x1053).  that was earlier 2024 and it was 55 dollars for a single valve plus 40 dollars shipping from canada.  i dont know what it costs today.  that was after i had helped a few valid newell folks work on their 6 packs and i saw that the guts were essentially the same.  

on the hwh systems, the stem screws into a brass or aluminum body that then screws into the manifold.  the valid setup has the stem (that the plunger goes in) screw directly into the manifold.  the orfice is in the manifold whereas the orfice is in the brass body that screws into the manifold on the hwh setup.  

the grove that wears in the seal of the plunger is normal over time.  if it gets scored from debris is when it can possibly leak by.  of course there are many other reasons that the suspension can leak down or go up when it should not.  these are just one of the reasons.     these kinds of valves are normally done in completely clean and dry systems and meant for zillions of actuations.  of course our systems are not that clean with moisture and sometimes debris of rust running through them.  that is the culprit.  

that kit that i got from valid is pictured below.  it has a new stem, the one oring it uses, the plunger and a spring and the nut to hold the coil on.

i have done many of the kits for hwh setups and the need for the stem that screws in the manifold has only come up a few times when someone damaged it taking it out. 

the measurements on the plunger are within tenths of a millimeter.   the valid coil is 14watts and the hwh coil is 9 watts, so the springs that i have for the hwh kits i am suggesting to not use since i am not sure of their spring strength in the valid setup.  the original valid springs should really be fine.  it is just the wear on the seat of the plunger that we get concerned about.  

if you have had them apart,  the is way more slop in the plunger inside the stem than the minute difference in the dimensions.  

if you look at the valid plunger and the one that i have the only real difference is how they insert the seal.  there has to be an air escape hole to put the seal in.  on mine it is a tiny hole on the side in the groove.  on the valid there is a large hole the length of the plunger coming out the bottom.  the valid seal is red,  mine is blue

so my kit for valid use would include 6 plungers,  6 orings, and the spanner wrench to take them out of the 6 pack manifold.  

until my costs go up, that would be 125 dollars including usps shipping in the usa.   that would do one six pack.   i charge more for the hwh kits as it has springs and more o rings.  

i know some have bought other plungers that dont fit and removed the seal and re inserted it in the valid plunger.  i am sure that is just fine as well but i have not done it.  it is probably cheaper as well.  

if you look at the hwh plunger thread,  you can see one of our gurus was here at my home and he installed the plungers that i have in his front six pack and has been traveling for a while with no issues.  that thread is many years old.  i have had zero issues with any of the parts over that time.  including guys from the foreforum.  they have a longer thread on this using my parts for hwh systems.  

as always when working on the six packs, block up the coach so it wont come down on you.  (especially the front since it is behind the drivers headlight behind the bumper.)

my pictures are of used plungers.  the new ones dont have any wear in them.  

if you are interested, please email me at [email protected]    feel free to contact me if you have questions.  i am more than glad to give you my phone number, just not here.  if you dont feel comfortable doing this, then don't   i am just trying to help out.  

i am not a business, and started doing these to help out a few buddies.  the foretravel gang grabbed ahold along with our newell friends.  i order these in fairly small batches and just post here on gurus and the foreforum when i have them. 

tom

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  xantrax display not correct

Posted by: [email protected]
01-21-2025, 09:05 AM
Forum: Electrical
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my display changed for some reason,not displaying status or system info. I noticed the device name is no longer the model ...3012 on the drop down menu but invchg 00.
how do I correct?

Thanks
JD

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  Cold preparation

Posted by: DK on the road
01-20-2025, 10:40 AM
Forum: Full Timing Experiences
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I'm not full timing but do enjoy several months at a time on the road. So not sure where to post the following.

 I have discovered a weakness in my preparation of traveling into colder weather. We are currently in Amarillo TX and they have been experiencing a bit of a cold snap this week, having single digits overnight and wind chill to a minus 4 +/-. My coach 784's weakness is at the generator compartment. I should have looped a Aquahot line or a extension from my engine coolant lines into the Hush box and along the fuel lines. My fuel tank and fuel is saying it's at 22 degrees and I had not, till now, added any additives to keep my fuel from gelling. Currently the Gen set will not start due to fuel gelling. Running my Cat engine recirculates the fuel and gets fuel warmer, while running, and brought up 150 gallons to 30 degrees in about 10 minutes of fast idling.

The Hush box is the only compartment that is not piped into the Aquahot. I have been able to keep the coach comfy and the Preheater on the Cat engine at about 110 degrees. 

Yes, I know, why travel during these temperatures? The answer.... I do not like being confined to rules and common sense LOL

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  Hydraulic leak stuck at rv park

Posted by: [email protected]
01-17-2025, 11:21 AM
Forum: Help, I need help ASAP
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Changed fluid to amsoil synthetic while changing two hoses. All of a sudden I have leaks in new places. What fluid other than synthetic should I put in? 
2005 dd 60 .
Thanks 
Jd

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  Jun-Air Compressor

Posted by: hypoxia
01-16-2025, 07:32 PM
Forum: Air Operated Systems and Leaks
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I acquired a Jun-Air 6-25 compressor today which was sold as a Custom Vac Compressor by Den-Tal-EZ with 325 hours on the meter.  There was a plastic bottle of oil attached which spilled, wow, that's some stinky oil!  Is the SJ27 oil that stinky?  I haven't tried to figure out what some of the parts are, I don't need most of them.  The data sheet said there should be 305 seconds from zero pressure to 120 PSI in the 25L tank, it beat that.  Wow, it sure is quiet!  I plan to replace one of the Thomas compressors with the Jun-Air although I haven't done any measurements yet.

Any advice on the Jun-Air? It won't be running much. The only time our compressor runs is when we operate a door, but the Thomas compressor surely annoys the neighbors on the driver side.

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  Splendide Washer/Dryer Combo

Posted by: Latitude 28
01-15-2025, 02:50 PM
Forum: Appliances
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All,
On our current coach our Splendide Washer/Dryer combo unit was making a loud banging noise during the spin cycle. The unit was level and all attachments were tied back and nothing was touching the unit. After removing it from the coach and investigating the WD unit found the attachment bolts on the concrete counterweight loose. Once tight the machine is back to sounding new. I removed the unit from the coach but one could build a platform to slide the WD unit clear of the cabinet and remove the top (two screws) to gain access to these bolts.  I have never had this happen to any of our machines over the years so this was a first for me.  
   

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  Double Slide tray

Posted by: [email protected]
01-13-2025, 12:15 PM
Forum: Parts info
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Looking for a double slide tray 36"×84"  80% extension if anyone has for sale or a good source to purchase.
Thank you, James 
Coach 647, 2003
60 series D

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  Aquahot fan pulsing with relay near inverters

Posted by: 2BirdDogs
01-13-2025, 08:32 AM
Forum: Heating Systems
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When I am using Aquahot on electric only and the heating element is “on” (I can tell due to L1 and L2 being over 30 amps each) my bathroom heater fans pulsate and there is a relay in the electrical controls bay (above and between my Outback inverters) that clicks on and off in sync with the pulsating heater fans. Any ideas on what may be causing this? I thought it may be to allow the electric element to get the AquaHot up to temp before allowing full force through fans but not sure. It does not do this when I am running diesel burner only. 

I will attempt to attach photos of the relay. 

Appreciate any insights. 

Paul

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  Obvious Air Leak, but Where

Posted by: Jrahn56
01-12-2025, 12:15 PM
Forum: Air Operated Systems and Leaks
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My original problem was coach #375 was not building air pressure, running on fast idle for 40 minutes it would only build up to 75 psi on the brake gauge and 75 psi on the supply. Most everyone said it was the air governor. After a monumental task of getting the old governor off, which had to be cut off in pieces, I managed to relocate the new air governor to the fire wall in the right rear engine compartment. When I started the coach up, fast idle for 40 minutes and the air pressure built up to 75 psi in both brake and supply. When I shut the coach off, I watched the supply gauge drop to 0 psi, within a minute, the brake supply gauge is holding at 73 psi. I didn't hear any air leakingor sissing, and I have sprayed every fitting I could find with soapy water and no leaks. During my investigation my brake supply tank was about 1/3 full of water. I drained that and installed a new remote drain valve. I also found a tank welded into the cross member in the rear and drained that one. I found the air tank in the right tag axle wheel well and drained that one as well. Does anyone know what I should check now? The guys at Newell weren't any help.

Thanks,

Jeff
Coach #375

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  Wheel part number

Posted by: whited44
01-11-2025, 01:08 PM
Forum: Suspension/Tires/Wheels
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Hello everyone.  I was polishing some wheels today on my coach and I need a new front wheel.  There are 2 different wheels on this I assume from a blow out or something.  I want to replace the 4 hole wheel with another 10 hole wheel.  Does anyone have the part number??  Newell wants 2k. Figured if I could get the part number I could order it from an Alcoa dealer. Thanks it’s a 22.5”

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