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  Coach Change

Posted by: Richard
01-01-2025, 06:53 PM
Forum: General
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After 20 years of Newell ownership, Rhonda and I have purchased a 2007 Prevost Marathon. I am equal parts terrified of a rig I don't know intimately and excited at the prospects of more learning and fixing adventures. 

Of course, I will still help with the Newell crowd in any way I can. 

I will leave it to the new owners of Newell 512 to introduce themselves, but I am certain it is headed to a new home, rolling toward more adventure.

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  Steer Axle Height Control Valve Early ZF Suspension

Posted by: jdkskyking
01-01-2025, 07:36 AM
Forum: Suspension/Tires/Wheels
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Here’s another ZF Newell quandary…. 

While driving… the Steer Axle Airbags are overfilling and are not exhausting air to lower back down to “Travel Height”. The nose of the bus will riding high. The steering feels different. 

I’ve referred to it in the past as “feels like I’m driving on ice”. 

Like many things on my bus, I’ve been chasing many oddities for years. This condition has also existed for many years but is not consistent. I dive the bus for a while, park it, I get out and notice that the nose of the bus looks higher than it should. This year I finally found a shop in Columbia Missouri that was able to complete a three axle alignment and make my bus’s handling “Great Again”. This condition changes how it drives and pisses me off. 

This is after driving two hours from Bentonville Ar to Springfield Mo.
   


I lowered the suspension completely to allow the bus to “Air Up” to Travel Height.
   


This looks normal.
   


In December of 2021 when my “Handling” problems Began, I had the entire suspension inspected at the factory and it got a clean bill of health. But there was a question about how a HCV so I decide to replace all three and start over. That was my first introduction to the air ride suspension on my bus. 

Yesterday I took steps to correct the problem but this post deserves some background. 
Bus was built in 2004. 
In the past several years,I’ve completed an entire rebuild of the suspension. New ZF control arms, airbags, and HCV. My bus is responsible for the realization that the ZF RAS system hydraulic accumulator has a limited life span. 
I’ve fabricated custom rear HCV control arm for “fine tuning” the rear bag Travel Height. 

I’ll post what I considered using information from this site, internet searches, AI input… 

If you own one of this era units, here’s what my bus’s steer axle Height Control Valve installation looked like in October of 2021.
   
   

In my bus I have a forward hatch in the middle of the forward through bay to gain access.

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  Florida Keys

Posted by: NCNewellfan
12-31-2024, 10:40 AM
Forum: Newell Sightings
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Was sitting on the Sun Shine Keys beach next to Hwy1 and suddenly saw a P50 Newell coming down towards Key West
Was brown with some yellow and had barb wire looking decals in the paint 
Was wondering which coach went past ?

Also saw a p2000 Newell at the St Augustine Rv park in St Augustine next to I-95. Walked past but was dark saw people eating so did not knock on the door. Was wondering who went who we shared the Campground with?

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  Crestron upgrade

Posted by: NCNewellfan
12-31-2024, 10:31 AM
Forum: Televisions, Satellite, Audio Visual Stuff
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Hi Newell Forum

Not sure if I am posting this on the correct spot on this forum

We have coach 1624
It is a P50
Age 2018
Have Intrepid system 1.0 (I think)
Have crestron ( icon is pink cyclone looking icon and color) software on ipad to manage all coach functions 

I went on vacation and my son brought his Starlink with

With such great internet I thought it a good idea to upgrade the two ipads in our coach to the newest IOS

We had 13 version now upgrade to 18 
Unfortunately we bought the coach used and  dont have the email or password for the previous own unavailable - we know who previous owner was but he did not know his own password so we cant truly access the edit functionality to make the system our own

So we created new icloud account to sign in

Now the ipad is telling me that the crestron software needs to be upgraded

When we go to the crestron’s website it does not have the same pink/ red icon version - actually says has been discontinued and has other versions

So the question is did the ipad software just mess everything up to the point of no return with the previous functionality?

Does anybody know if one needs the old version to be reinstalled to make the Intrepid system work again

Would upgrading to the new system think Intrepid 2.0 now be the the only option to get all functionality back on the ipad system?

Appreciate any and all advice

Will call Newell next week when back - might be the only option I now have 

Thanks guys!

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  Shelley EM for power monitoring

Posted by: pairodice
12-31-2024, 06:34 AM
Forum: Electrical
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I have been looking into battery systems and that of course has me looking into how much power we consume daily. Has anyone tried any of the energy monitoring products like the Shelly EM?  I’m interested to see how much battery power I really need to run everything.  Next step would be to convert these old SCS AC units to an inverter style like Jack Houpe and a few others did…

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  Air dump destroys bottom leveling rod mount.

Posted by: Gem930
12-30-2024, 02:20 PM
Forum: Suspension/Tires/Wheels
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If I dump too much air or the coach sits too long without the compressor on, the leveling rods push out the bottom of the rubber mounts on the axle or bend.  It is as if there is not enough travel on the King of the road leveling valve??? Is this normal.  Is there a fix?  

Thx! 

Gregg

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  Lost T Kane tag hub cover. Go new style?

Posted by: Gem930
12-30-2024, 02:10 PM
Forum: General
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My wife and I made it to our Christmas destination, but a tag axle hub cover did not.  It appears the narrow (and even the thick) covers are out of stock…. AND EXPENSIVE!  Not being a slave to originality, and kinda liking the newer look, I’m considering swapping them all out.  I realize the new style are plastic and probably harder to clean, but I do like the look. Is there anything I should consider before I go this route? 
Thx!

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  Slideout Awning Woes

Posted by: whited44
12-30-2024, 11:16 AM
Forum: Slides
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Hi Everyone.  I picked my coach up in October.  It has 1 driver side slide.  On the trip back from picking it up the slide out awning went in and out with the slide as it's supposed to.  The last stop before home I ran the slide out like I have before and it broke the aluminum castings that hold the roller tube.  I took the slide awning off so that I could get home.  Well I finally got the parts from Zip Dee.  Put everything back together per their instructions and watching the YouTube video that AZ rv expert did on replacing one (see below video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yO8Iuj7ReKA

So long story short.  I went to put the slide out and watch the slide awning go out like it was supposed to and it got almost all the way out and 1 of the castings broke again.  Zip Dee is closed for the holiday but just wondered it anyone else had any problems like this??  The spring is original but seem like it wound nicely.
           

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  Turn signals

Posted by: johnkosir
12-29-2024, 11:19 AM
Forum: Electrical
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My left turn signal does not work, my right does. The left indicator on the dash turns on, but does not blink, 
    Micro Switches provide power to marker turn signal board
4 ways work left front signal blinks with flashers
Blue wire from fuse 42 in front panel to flasher
Blue wire from flasher to terminal 25 front panel
Black wire from front panel to connector on steering Colum
Yellow wire from connector to turn signal switch flasher power
Gray wire from switch to connector for left rear direction signal light
Green for left front from switch to connector for left direction signal light  
black wire is for rear left turn signal from front panel to back relay for turn signal
White from connector to front panel for left front
white with black stripe is for front left turn turn signal 
712 was built with led flashers
front leds plus rear relays are what make the flasher pulse
old led bulbs drew 30t-50% more power than new ones which was enough to make flashers work
some leds in my left turn signal bulb must of burnt out causing current to drop and it not to blink on left turn but blink with the 4 ways extra load from right bulb
the extra flashers the PO added made it do weird stuff
when I put in new bulbs it did not work called tech support for Truck Lite and they told me new leds used 30-50% less power than old ones
bought 2 different new flashers that were advertised for Led bulbs both did not  work
called Newell was told they put resistors in parallel  with the light if it does not flash that is what I did
Bulb is 1/4 turn to get out
      tool to get bulb out 2" plastic pipe with a piece of 2" pipe with 1" cut out of it compressed with channel plyer's and put in side the first pipe then 2 pieces cut off leaving 2  3/8" pieces trimmed to go in light
    2 nd piece pushed down into 1st piece
    finished tool 2 screws to stop it from turning hole drilled in case I need more leveraged
    I used this light following the circuit to see when it would stop working it never did when I got to the connection before the bulb the bulb would flash checked the  ground  it was good. Put a new bulb in it would not work, this was when I called tech support, 
    I did not need the scope but I was hoping someone could see something wrong in the trace and tell me what to look for


relay in front is pulsing
   

    PO added this don't know why  This was part of the problem

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  Snow chains.

Posted by: Dystrakti0n
12-28-2024, 07:11 PM
Forum: Other Stuff
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We are currently boondocking in the clatsop state forest in Oregon, and though we have only had constant rain, when we drive into town there are signs for "snow zone, snow tires or chains required". I'm buying chains for the GL350, but I have some questions on getting some for the coach. 

Chains: does anyone have brand/model recommendations. 

Drive axle: do I need chains just for the outside set of wheels or ones that cover both sets? 

Ride height: should I adjust the ride height up for better clearance of the chains? 

Tips and tricks: if anyone has tips and tricks for running with chains, I am all eyes and ears. I also get the best tip/trick is don't get yourself somewhere that you need chains. 

We were looking for some boondocking in the Olympic forest in Washington earlier in the month. Ended up being a hill climb from the get go, all the way up to the snow line. By the time we actually reached the end of private land, I started up a hill, and about 200 feet in, we were no longer going up hill. Ended up backing down, while threading the trailer into a single lane bridge  at a 90° turn, we had just passed to get turned around. ? With a wall of dirt on one side, and an unguarded cliff on the other, I got one attempt to get it right, since pulling forward wasn't an option to straighten out. 

To be quite honest, I rather go back to shoving C130s around fighter parking in an active combat zone than attempt that reverse feat again. 

I hope everyone is having a happy holiday season, and thanks in advance!

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