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Someone recently was looking for a coach with bunks. Here is a '92 45' at panterra coach with 2 bunks up front. Looks nice.

http://panterracoach.com/coaches/1992-newell/

   

Driving through Tulsa spotted this one in for a pitstop at Cummings with the engine cowel open.. I suppose they all need a little mechanic loving...

does anyone know the rpm's for the hydraulic radiator fan in the high and low speeds?

thanks

tom

Thought I should take a little time and document some of my latest projects in case it might help somone in the future.

This project should have been addressed a long time ago. Totally my fault for not doing that. When I had the coach out for pre-purchase inspection in Phoenix at Williams for the dyno run, they noted the muffler was loose somewhere above the inlet.

It finally caught up with me doing the big climbs out west. The paint got singed on the wall of the small bay with the power cable. I decided them to do something when I got back.

The muffler intself is probably ready for replacement, but I first wanted to address the looseness. Contacting Newell with pictures of the muffler resulted in John Clark's saying they had the muffler and hangers in stock - $870 and $59. Mike Ellis said "positive it's broke at the stainless flex just above the floor". He also advised the repair would require removal of the engine fan and radiator! All I could see were dollars flying through the air.

Apparantly in my case Newell purchased 5" dia. stainless steel flex and welds a 5" short piece of exhaust pipe on each end. The flex goes from the exit of the turbo just through the floor of the engine compartment. The entire distance is wrapped in an insulating blanket. Access back in there is just not possible.

I didn't ask Mike how he knew where it would be broken, but I bet it is not the first one to fail there. I decided to take it apart and see what I could do.

I have included pictures that will help tell the story and explain what my words may not make clear. I cut the old hangers and the muffler was out. Sure enough, the connection between the short exhaust pipe and the stainless flex was no longer connected. If you look at that piece you will see the weld is just fine, but the first rotation of the flex broke away. What could I do?

Well, the stainless itself looks very good - no surprise there I guess. I really didn't want to drive to Miami nor did I want to let someone local start taking the fan and radiator out. On top of that, what assurance would I have that the origianl design would not fail again in the same way?
I decided to purchase a much longer piece of pipe and put it up inside the flex. It would be so long that it could not come out unless the muffler was removed. It might not be totally gas tight, but it would be very close. I planned to purchase a "T" bolt band clamp, but that didn't work out. The stainelss flex is just took strong to compress.

I purchased the hangars and when they arrived they were is no way similar to the existing ones. After cutting them to shorten their reach and drilling holes in the floor of the engine compartment to mount them I was able to make them work.

It was difficult to force the pipe into the flex, but that is not really a bad thing as I think it will stay right where I put it. I used small floor jacks to help me reinstall the old muffer, after having it welded up at a local shop. I may still need to replace it but that will be easy now that I have the inlet and hangars all fixed. I still need to shine up the tip and install the 6" saddle clamp that is not here yet. Russ

I am working on modifying the platform which I now use to haul the Goldwing or ATV. I think it will work for the RZR and will let you know if I get it worked out. I learn with my towing incident that the rack will hold the front of my pick up so I don't think the RZR will be tow heavy. I will have to reinforce the Alum where the wheels set and extend away from the coach. The measurement now are 48" and I am going to 56" with 4" more inches away from the back of the coach.

I am thinking about replacing the AquaHot exhaust pipe that runs under the coach. I am pretty sure I have a little leak right near where the insulated run connected to the pipe portion near where the AquaHot exhaust comes through the body floor.

If anyone has done this job, please give me your advice and experience. I am wondering about the material in the insulation right now. Do you know if it is asbestos free? I will send Newell a query on that.

I am reasonably certain the union placed near the AquaHot transition through the floor will never be able to be turned open just due to the corrosion and rust evident from years of service. A reciprocating saw should handle that and hopefully I will be able to turn the threads loose to put in new pipe. One of those jobs that once you make the first cut you are kind of committed.

More later..... Russ

hi all,

in looking at the pictures that todd has of his engine compartment with the engine removed, i could see that the insulation/thermal barrier was in tatters.

i talked to todd on the phone last nite about his adventures in getting his 8v92 rebuilt and i asked him about if he was going to replace the insulation while it was easy to get at. he said they were going to do that.

but....he also said that some of it had fallen down onto the top of the engine. it made me think that all of us need to make sure nothing is in direct contact with the turbo or other hot areas of our main engines. i was reading on the bluebird site this past week about how one of them had a fire while driving and it was because someone had improperly added insulation around the genny/aquahot exhaust going up through the roof and it fell against the exhaust pipe and caught fire. thankfully a friend was following them and noticed it and they were able to get it out before it burned the coach up.

in some coaches, the thermal barrier is a thermal canvas pad like cover that is sewn and mounted up there. in some it is like that for a sound barrier as well like was in my genny for the 1990 i have and my 02 has the same.

the engine compartments in the earlier coaches were the 1" thick sound/thermal/insulation pieces made of various layers of dense foam, foil, lead type material and such that has adhesive on the back. that deteriorates over the years and starts just falling apart.

it is available from newell parts, dupree products and a few other places and is quite expensive. 65 bucks for a 24"x54" sheet. plus shipping and it is heavy.

http://www.dupreeproducts.com/SearchResults.asp?Cat=6

on my 90 i redid the entire engine compartment with a radiant barrier and glued multiple layers of it together myself and screwed it up with fender washers and wood screws. i talked to the manufacturer to make sure it would withstand the heat and it does. but it was a lot of work to do it this way but alot cheaper. tradeoff is time.

so, just a reminder to check it.

here are pictures of what i did on my 90. i know wally had redone parts of his coach as well.

tom

   
   
   
   
   
   

Good morning Gurus. I have an ongoing situation with my bedroom baseboard heaters.
As reported earlier, when I turned up the thermostat there was a buzz and the breaker popped. I can't identify where the buzz is actually coming from. I changed the thermostat and the same thing occurred. Following Russ's suggestion I took the baseboard heaters off line one at a time and the same thing occurred.
Have any of you followed that circuit or run into a junction box between the thermostat and heaters (where they must spit off to each heater). Any help greatly appreciated. The nights are starting to get cool up here in the Cariboo area of B.C.

SOLD I'm selling my 2005 Jeep Liberty 4x4 toad with 75000 miles, silver, v6 gas, skid plates, AT tires with about 6000 miles, has Demco tow brackets and Ready Brake setup (only cable, not surge adapter on tow bar).
I'm asking $8500 OBO
I also have a Demco Aluminator towbar that I may sell for $250. It is in Arizona so I would have to ship that when I get out west.

Or if someone has a Chevy/GMC 4x4 extended cab to trade or a Polaris RZR to trade I'll consider that.

The Jeep is in Thibodaux, LA now but may be in Arizona in a month or so. PM me or reply to this for more info.

SOLD

howdy, i know a few of you have the air door and the keyless entry with it.

mine is an essex electronics 1602 system. it does not have any wireless keyfobs with it and i have a call into essex to see if it is possible to add them in.

those of you that have a similar system, do yours have remote key fobs with it?

tom