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I know this is a question that only comes up when you have a problem.
i thought it would be a good discussion on how to have your newell towed. i recognize that the different vintages and sizes of newells may have different optimum ways, but i thought we should have some ideas shared so others can find them easily.
i had my 1990 38' no tag towed when i had engine problems. they used a super big flatbed rig and used a winch to pull it up on the flatbed. they had to put a wheel in the trailer hitch to help it roll since it would have totally drug on the ground at the rear when they were tilting it as they pulled it up on the flatbed.
please others please share what you know to be the procedure for towing your coach.
thanks
tom
Would it be possible to have some sort of location map or searchable chart so that members who are willing to be visited could be contacted? Several other brand-specific forums that I'm on have such a feature, and being able to contact someone who is nearby and owns a coach like what I'm interested in is a big help.
i thought it would be an interesting thread to provide data on what speed provides the best fuel economy for different engines used in our newells
i will start with some speculation on my series 60. i have read that the optimum rpm for best efficiency is 1400 on a 12.7L series 60.
i had taken a few pictures of my vmspc while driving so had a couple of data point.
70mph was 1566 RPM on a snapshot i had taken. from another one it was ~ 11 RPM per MPH in 6th gear.
so to hit 1400 RPM i would need to be at ~55 MPH.
i tend to drive in the mid 60's typically. i heard somewhere else that MPG goes up about 1 MPG for every 10mph you slow down if you are driving 55-75mph. i got about 7.4mpg on my 4300 mile trip. lots of long grades and hills on it and pulling a car.
any other data on this and for other engines as well? i know on my 8v92 i seemed to get about 6.5mpg no matter what i did...
discussion?
tom
Hello from SW Missouri. I was pointed to this forum by someone on the Wanderlodge owners' forum, and thought I'd introduce myself.
We're a bit over two years from retirement, and between now and then we intend to purchase a DP to use as a full-time coach. We've done our homework (we think) and have settled on an older high quality coach. Newells have been mentioned several times, but they seem to be fairly rare, so we haven't considered them much. Current front-runners for us are 93-95 Foretravel U300's (like the mid-entry and slanted windshield) and a 95 Wanderlodge BMC (like the Cummins engine, the steel body, and Aqua-Hot).
If you know those coaches, you will recognize that they are all wide bodies with no slides and have decent headroom. Those are really the main physical points for us. We're figuring on spending about $30,000 or so for the coach plus about $10,000 for upgrades/repairs. Obviously, then, a coach with all new tires is worth more than one with old tires since we won't have to buy tires.
I woke up today excited about the fact that our coach would finally be done with all the little fixes it was going through and heading to the paint shop for a beatiful new paint job. Well that came to a screaching halt with a call from the mechanics saying that after they dropped the oil pan to change it they found these brass shards in the pan (see the pic).
They are going to let everything drain out and tomorrow reach in and see if anything is loose or where this could come from. They fear it is a Wrist Pin Bushing. If so they are hoping they can isolate the damage to one cylindar on one side. worst case I am looking at a complete rebuild. They said that could be upwards of $25k. Tom was kind enough to connect me with his mechanic who agreed with their immediate plans.. However, he said he wants me to call back with their findings to comment more. he did say he can get rebuilt engines from a place in Missouri that he has had very good luck with for aboutn $18k. Unbeleiveable!! The mechanics asked if there was 40wt oil in the engine to which I replied no I dont think so because others told me not to use that and the guys in Texas seemed well versed in things.
Well I sent the head dude a text and he tells me they did in fact use 40wt. Now shame on me for not watching my own back, but given the fact they do this for a living shouldn't they have known this??
Gang,
I recently replaced the mirrors in my coach with upgraded larger & heated mirrors with the turn signal LEDs embedded in the mirror. They even have rear facing cameras! Very cool and very pretty.
Here is my question....Do any of your coaches have a separate switch to control the mirror heaters? I have a fuse for "Mirror Heat" but have no idea how it is wired.
(When Newell installed the new mirrors, I am pretty sure they wired them incorrectly since now the heat comes on with the turn signal)
Should the heat turn on with the key...or should there be a separate switch that I would turn on in cold weather?
Cheers,
bill
Today I installed the Brakeswitch which helps manage the jake brake and allows the jake brake to be on at all times, especially in a emergency. The relay engages the jake only when the air brake light goes on, and disengages as soon as the accelerator is engaged. The advantage is that with the jake switch on and you take your foot off of the accelerator, the jake only engages when the brake light goes on. It will be a few days before I can test it to be sure it works. The seller told me that it is essential for the brake light to be on whenever the jake is engaged, and he thinks all Newells do this.
Instillation is very easy and all connections are make in the fuse panel and terminal board located in front of the passenger seat. In my coach, disconnect the two purple & yellow wires located at fuse panel #30. Determine which wire powers the radar detector and which powers the jake switch. Connect the radar detector wire to fuse terminal #29. Connect the jake power wire to one of the red wires from the Brakeswitch, and connect the other red wire to terminal #30. Next, the Brakeswitch purple wire to terminal board #19 (not fuse #19). Insert under the screw with the existing wire on either side. Finally, just connect the black wire to the ground in the panel.
Winters on the ocean are hard on the Newell.
The attached image shows rust that I am in the process of dealing with. The trim piece has obviously been removed. The bulging of that trim was what alerted me to the issue.
I cut the trim with a small rotary cutter at the ends of the front slide. The trim was held on by adhesive. The product looks a lot like a thick double sided tape. By pulling hard at the top of the trim I was able to eventually separate the trim from the underlying steel. The surface rust was bad enough that the adhesive stayed on the trim and just pulled away the rust and the trim came off.
I will treat the steel with my favorite rust inhibitor - POR15 - and then put the trim back on.
But, why I am posting is for suggestions on how I might put the trim back on. For me, access is always better than no access, and the adhesive way pretty much makes it permanently on.
I would not mind at all seeing the heads of a few small fasteners on the trim strip. But I worry about the steel, aluminum, and fastener interface - from a corrosion standpoint. Also I have never been very successful at tapping - I 'm good with the drilling part, but usually break something during the tapping part ( cheap taps maybe ).
I have thought about adhesive, but using much less than Newell did hoping I could pull it off later if need be. I would like to be able to inspect the area in the future.
So, anyone have any suggestions? Thanks - Russ
If your route brings you threw North utah and Idaho,
Rendezvous Park in Bear Lake or Garden City, UT is a must stop over. Of all (and I've not seen more that 15 or 20 state parks) this one rates #1. The layout and easy of site selection is fantastic. 50amp+water&sewage.
$25.00 per night. Best reception of Verizon wifi and cell. GREAT Views of the lake. Host even brought us firewood.
This small town has a lot to offer, food, shopping, and golf. lots of water sports and atv right from the park.
Its not Hilton Head but very, very nice.
Hey maybe because most everyone has gone for the season
Michael,
Do you remember when Newell changed to the new style dashboard? Seems like it was somewhere in the '94-'96 range.

