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  Murphy Beds
Posted by: MarkofSJC - 33 minutes ago - Forum: Discussion about what to consider on buying a used Newell - No Replies

I'd love to tap the collective wisdom of this group - specifically about Newell's Murphy Bed option.  I've seen it offered in a number of coaches like this one and this one

From a "daytime" aspect, I really like the idea of literally having full use of a second living room.  The idea of mounting a large TV on the bottom of the bed (Mini theater if you will) and having an adjacent couch or pair of theater chairs seems really inviting to passengers when the road side views are...monotonous.   But I have concerns/questions I can't find answers to.

1) How hard are they (weight wise) to put up and down?  Are they counter-balanced, electronically operated or other ways "assisted" in their operation?   Could someone's wife do it without issue?
2) Why are they always just 66" wide?  We really like a King sized bed, but Murphy beds never seem to be offered any wider, why?
3) Elevation off the floor.  I did see one up close, and when the bed was down, the top of the mattress hit mid-calf.  Are they always that low to the ground?
4) Bed comfort.  Are you giving up anything in the comfort of the bed?  Can you accommodate a sleep number mattress?
5) Putting it up.  Stupid question, but when your DW sleeps under three blankets, do you have to disassemble all the bedding or is there a way to keep it all in place when going vertical?

Any info really appreciated!!!

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  #521 1999 For Sale
Posted by: Fulltiming - 4 hours ago - Forum: Coaches for Sale (Please read the info in the Category description) - No Replies

2 slides, mid bath,




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  " Average" CCC for 2002-2004
Posted by: WRVAlpine - 11-12-2018, 07:46 PM - Forum: General - Replies (1)

Even though I am a production line coach owner, I've read enough here to know all Newells are different.

However, Patty and I plan on full timing when I retire and feel we will need 4-5K CCC.   Our present coach has 4,500 lb CCC.

Should we be looking at only two slide coaches in this year range (2002-'04)?  Seems that some fuel tanks are very large, and there might some capacity moved from fuel to "stuff".  I read some owners have upgraded to a 365 tire from a 315, but I don't see how that would help assuming that the 315's carried max load of the axle rating. Did they change the front axle too?

Thanks, I appreciate your help. I will have many more questions.

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  Hydraulic Fan Motor Leak
Posted by: Richard - 11-11-2018, 08:15 AM - Forum: Drivetrain - Replies (3)

During our last tour of the country, we developed a small leak in the hydraulic fan motor. I didn't want to tear into it while on the road, so 5000 miles later, we have a nasty grimey engine bay. 

Tom was here to help me get the motor out, and it was quite a learning curve that may help someone else in the future. 

First of all, it wasn't the hydraulic fan motor that was leaking. There is a device bolted to the hyd motor, that is supplied with hyd fluid via a small hose coming off the hyd motor, and a small return line going to the hyd reservoir. There were no identifying marks or lableing on the device that brought up anything in google that looked like the device.

The device is called an Overhung Load Adaptor. It is made by a company called ZeroMax.  Mine was model L600130. The purpose of the adaptor is to keep any sideways load off of the hyd pump motor. It's a pretty simple device with two tapered roller bearings mated back to back to handle both axial and radial loading. The spline from the hyd motor slips into one end and the other end is the tapered hub for the fan. 

My model was a Zeromax 600 series overhung load adaptor with a high pressure seal on the output shaft. Here is an invoice with the part numbers for the overhung adaptor seals.

.pdf   OrdAck1630136.pdf (Size: 186.01 KB / Downloads: 19)

The pump is a Vickers MFE 15. I replaced the front seal on it just for grins. Here is the invoice for that seal.

.pdf   NEWELL.pdf (Size: 130.55 KB / Downloads: 20)

Here are a few tips that Tom and I learned along the way.

We confirmed the leak at the OHLA seal, by taking the motor out but leaving the hoses attached. Then we cranked the engine, and unplugged the speed control solenoid to make it run on high. A white paper towell really shows up red ATF. 

The OHLA has to be taken apart to get out the front seal. Remove the rear seal by standard neanderthal method. There is a huge circlip that holds the bearing assembly in. It takes a serious pair of circlip pliers to compress it enough to remove. The circlip has a bevel on it. When reinstalling, place the bevel facing outward or to the rear. The bevel preloads the bearings. When the bearing assembly is out, the front seal is punched out the front. Carefully press in the new one.

The front seal on the Vickers hyd pump is easily removable without disassembling the motor. I drilled two 1/8 holes in the face of it, screwed in two small sheet metal screws, and pulled it right out. 

You are going to drain almost all the ATF out of the hyd system when you take the hoses off the motor. Be prepared for the flood. It would probably help to empty the reservoir first, but the hoses are still going to spew ATF.

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  Looking for our Retirement Coach
Posted by: WRVAlpine - 11-10-2018, 10:32 PM - Forum: Howdy and Welcome to Newell Gurus - Replies (1)

Thanks for letting us join.  Patty and I are searching long and hard for our last coach.  We started off looking at other Alpines until we discovered that the CCC's were too low on newer Alpine Coaches.  So we have moved on to tag axle coaches.  Originally Country Coach, Newmar and Foretravel. I have always liked the Newell.  Especially the model with the raised roof line.  Can't tell you what years or why it was raised.  So I am going to lurk here and eventually ask some questions after I have read all I can here. 
Safe Travels
Tom, Patty and the "BIG DOG" Hannah.

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  Blue tank
Posted by: Joe Galowitch - 11-10-2018, 03:43 PM - Forum: Air Operated Systems and Leaks - Replies (6)

Hello Guros I have another question d0es any know why there’s a big blue tank attached to the 12volt compressor?

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Posted by: Boeingdriver - 11-10-2018, 02:25 PM - Forum: Please introduce yourself - No Replies



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  1984 40' For Sale
Posted by: Fulltiming - 11-10-2018, 12:40 PM - Forum: Coaches for Sale (Please read the info in the Category description) - No Replies

Detroit 8V92, faded paint, interior mostly original, side hallway floorplan.





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  #735 2005 Quad Slide
Posted by: Fulltiming - 11-10-2018, 12:19 PM - Forum: Coaches for Sale (Please read the info in the Category description) - Replies (2)

The Motor Coach Store has listed #735. Murphy bed, rear bath only, washer/dryer, wood grain laminate throughout, carpet in salon and bedroom. 116,480 miles, Series 60 Detroit Diesel, Allison HD4060MH transmission.




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  Low power on incline or when entering highway
Posted by: SilverCloud - 11-09-2018, 02:41 PM - Forum: Help, I need help ASAP - Replies (6)

How can I increase the power when merging and on inclines? I have a Detroit 60 series in a 2002 Newell Coach.

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