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Posted by: InfiLights
07-25-2016, 06:43 AM
Forum: Suspension/Tires/Wheels
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Hi all,

Looking for info on the correct part to buy and replace.

As I drove the coach yesterday to get some water and sanitize the  system, I heard again the clunk I experienced when I brought the coach home.
It happens on 90 deg , tight turns, a bang when the wheels are coming back to straight....

Crawled under (to see better the Howard Power center cylinder as well) and I find out that the driver side U shape bracket that is supposed to hold the rubber busing on the stabilizer bar in place, is broken, allowing the bar end to somewhat float. It is kept there by the broken, popped up bracket and the outside bolt.  

I need to buy a new bracket. Anybody have a diagram and a part number so that I can get it coming ? What I am looking for ?
Appreciate it.

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Posted by: InfiLights
07-24-2016, 06:03 PM
Forum: Interior Things
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Hello all,

The coach came without a bedroom ceiling fan. The PO took it off and now I need to come up with a replacement.
What should I look for ? Size, height ?
Did anybody upgrade theirs for current production fans and is happy with the outcome ?
Appreciate any insight. Thanks

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Posted by: Greg dollman
07-24-2016, 05:48 PM
Forum: Heating Systems
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My Aqua hot is leaking antifreeze out by the exhaust is there a fix or do I get a new one

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Posted by: bikestuff
07-23-2016, 10:34 AM
Forum: Exterior
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Gang,

Ok so this is the third thread to talk about the same incident, but since the subject is different, I thought it made sense to break it out into its own thought.

The towing incident discussed in another thread resulted in the following damage...Front drag rails forcibly removed, cowl under generator forcibly removed, trim around front tires damaged, large scratch on rear of bus, new air leak, ability to extend the generator (unknown but doubtful).

Without the cowling, I am concerned about the generator staying cool.  

My insurance will pay for up to 100 miles in towing.  (I am near Knoxville, TN)

So, does anyone have a suggestion about where to take the coach for repairs?  My inclination is to make the coach drivable then head to the factory...but without a generator, that would be a brutal trip.  A more general question is has anyone had repairs done at a place beside the factory.  (I am aware of the awesome paint and body work done by the place in Nacadoches, TX but wonder if they would know how to make a new cowling)

Any thought/suggestion is welcome.

Thanks, bill

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Posted by: bikestuff
07-23-2016, 07:03 AM
Forum: Towing
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This is not about a coach towing a car/truck...it is about towing a broken Newell.

Yesterday, I broke an axle on the side of a busy highway in Madisonville, TN (outside of Knoxville).  I immediately knew I would need to be towed.  (my worst nightmare).

I got a wrecker recommendation from the local Prevost guy....they would not be able to help for several hours.  They suggested their competitors...not available.  Same for the third through seventh wrecker services I called.  Eight time was the charm.   A local wrecker company agreed to come out and tow me about ten miles to the local Prevost service shop.  Idea was to land somewhere safe while I figured out what was wrong with coach.

In the meantime I called the Newell emergency number to ask specifically how do you tow a Newell.  They said that if the guys had the right wrecker it was not an issue.  They would pull the axle and it would all be good.  Uh. No!

The guys with the wrecker showed up and spent maybe an hour pulling the axle and getting the "stinger" under the front wheels.  The idea is that they slide a big sled under the front wheels and lift up.  The sled pivots left and right so the coach being towed acts a lot like a semi-trailer.

I stayed in the coach with the dog.  As we made our way up the road to get turn around to go the Prevost guys shop, I heard some loud pops and groans.  (Not a good sign).  As we made the first turn, it was clear that the wrecker guy was having trouble turning this rig.  As he tried to make a wide left turn, there was a car broken down on shoulder right in his way.  Now we were blocking an off ramp, and four lanes of traffic.  After a little maneuvering and some folks pushing the broken car out of the way, we made our way down to a parking lot to try and turn around.  No dice, still trouble turning.

Driver had to back up and try another cut.  All the while I was hearing pops and groans coming from coach.  As he was backing up, I heard and felt a large crunch.  Yup he backed into a light post!

Did I say that I had a motorcycle lift on the back with a brand new (24 miles) BMW motorcycle on it?  Well, I did.  

The next part is a little blurry.  But here are highlights....

1. Motorcycle had minor if any damage.  2.  Motorcycle lift was totaled. 3.  The groans and pops that I heard was the stinger ripping off the front skid bars, and the fairing under the penny.  4. The trim pieces around the front tires were now customized. 5.  Cops came and investigated and wrote report.  

After a great deal of tinkering, we got the coach moving again, now with clearance on the front end.  Eventually we made it to the Prevost shop and that is where I am now.

Lessons learned.  
1.  Newell needs to create and distribute written instructions that we can give to wrecker drivers to keep from "wrecking" (get it?!!) our coaches.  
2.  If you need to get towed, be sure that there is sufficient clearance so that the stinger can pivot left and right without tangling with the undercarriage.


Cheers,
bill

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Posted by: bikestuff
07-23-2016, 06:30 AM
Forum: Drivetrain
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Gang,

I am creating this thread to document what I suspect is going to be a long journey.....It started with my worst nightmare...being broken down on the side of a busy road late on a Friday afternoon.

Yesterday, I was leaving Vonore, TN on the way to Chattanooga.  As I accelerated from a stop light, I heard a loud bang, followed by a grinding noise.  Coasted to a stop on the shoulder of a busy four lane road.  I put it in neutral then drive again.  More grinding noise.  I knew that was not a good sign.  The engine was running fine, and there were no error codes on tranny.  A quick inspection of  the U-Joints and drive shaft told me that they were probably not the problem.

Called @"encantotom" along with some other gurus to get advice.  Obviously, I was going to need to be towed...and I will create a separate thread for that fiasco....[spoiler alert:  only go to that thread if the sight of twisted metal does not upset you].  I ended up at a local Prevost shop and am currently plugged in and plotting my next moves.

What I know up to now....The wrecker guy "pulled the axle" in order to tow the coach without affecting the engine / transmission.  He warned me that a lot of oil was gonna come out when he backed the axle out of the hub / differential.  As the axle came loose, there was very little oil.  (First clue).  For those that have not thought about it.  The inside set of bolts on the drive axle are what hold the axle to the hub. See picture.

The splines on the end of the axle were heavily warn to the point of not being able to engage the matching splines in the diff.  (Second clue)  See picture.

After the axle was out, I tried to put it in gear again.  This time no / little noise.   Of course we did not have forward propulsion with the drive axle removed. (third clue)

At this point, I believe that I have stripped the axle as well as the gear on the inside of differential.  The failure was probably caused by low oil in the differential.  (I always have maintenance done at the factory, but have not yet checked paperwork to see if that is something they checked)  

I briefly contemplated getting a new axle and jamming into the existing differential and hoping for the best, but Tom's bus guy said that was a really, really bad idea.

So my plan is to find a local (Knoxville) bus guy that can rebuild / replace the differential and install new drive axle.  Plan is to investigate replacing the U-Joints at same time for general purposes.  Will have coach towed again to that place.  Any suggestions on good shops in Knoxville would be appreciated.

I will post more information as it becomes available. 

Lessons learned so far:  1)  Just because a towing company has a big wrecker, does not mean they know how to tow a Newell.
2)  In order to disconnect the wheels from driving the engine while towing, you can remove the drive axle (albeit with loss of differential oil).  It is not necessary to remove the drive shaft.
3)  Dont assume that you have oil in your differential.  Since our coaches mostly don't have differential temperature gauges, you really have to pull the plug and check.  Obviously with the coach properly cribbed for safety.

Cheers,
bill

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  Ac

Posted by: Greg dollman
07-22-2016, 07:29 PM
Forum: Air Conditioning
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Can anyone tell me does there ac keep up when it's hot aim getting very disappointed with this newell

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Posted by: Fulltiming
07-22-2016, 12:47 PM
Forum: Coaches for Sale (Please read the info in the Category description)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Classic-36-Newel...2208249728

Upgraded to a rebuilt Turbocharged CAT 3208, Allison 4 speed transmission, 170k miles, $29,500

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https://www.rvonline.com/single-ad.asp?Recnumber=67572
http://www.themotorcoachstore.com/--2007...625-HP-CAT

This appears to be an excellent price on a 2007 quad slide Newell with a 625HP CAT and a ZF-12 speed transmission. 162k miles. Rear bath only. This was the last 2007 built.

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