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Posted by: encantotom
03-14-2022, 08:28 PM
Forum: Coaches for Sale (Please read the info in the Category description)
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i have a friend looking for a stacker trailer.

pm or email me if you know of any

thanks

tom

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Posted by: 360
03-14-2022, 06:06 PM
Forum: Exterior
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Driver’s side mirror is noisy so I’d like to play around a bit with positioning.  Loosened the large nut on the bottom and can’t budge it.  Can’t remember if it was their site or another forum that said to give it a good tap, but the ones I’m giving it are not doing the trick.  Maybe I’m just being to gentle.  Any suggestions for breaking these free?

Also any advice on positioning would be great.  Coach is so quiet up front aside from this, passenger side is quiet as can be.

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Posted by: [email protected]
03-14-2022, 02:13 PM
Forum: Air Operated Systems and Leaks
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There is a 1/4" air line that is capped off in my water compartment. Any idea what it might be for?

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Posted by: jdkskyking
03-13-2022, 07:44 AM
Forum: Suspension/Tires/Wheels
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UPDATE 10/05/2025 - Root Cause, know I know. Here’s the nuts and bolts.

Four years ago while on a Coach vacation, I started to experience a significant handling problem with my Newell.

Last week we completed a trip to Breckenridge Colorado from our home in Bentonville Arkansas.

The Coach performed well in the Rocky Mountains AND handled almost perfect. Almost…. More to come…

Here’s my recipe for success in a nutshell but it has been a steep and long learning curve involving many people and $$$$$.

1) ZF RAS Pressure Accumulator - That’s where my problems started. The diaphragm in the accumulator failed, the accumulator is only good for ten years if you’re lucky. When this happens, the TAG axle literally trails and is not held in the straight forward position for straight forward driving. The hydraulic pressure accumulator is responsible for holding the TAG axle straight forward when the steering wheel/steering axle is straight forward and within 5° left or right of center. I also set my ZF RAS system/accumulator to the ZF recommended pressure values of 10 bar nitrogen and 15 bar hydraulic. The system has been “bled” multiple times…. I have my opinion on that process and have probably posted that as well. It’s part of the secret recipe for success with the ZF RAS System. In the future I will accomplish additional modifications to my ZF RAS hydraulic lines and will post everything. Getting as much air out of the system is key to proper functionality.

2) TRAVEL HEIGHT ACCURACY- The Coach must be at the correct travel height front and rear, 11 1/4” on mine. The Steer Axle has one Height Control Valve (HCV) and the Drive Axle has two independent HCVs for each side. The Travel Height accuracy is critical for a proper ALL WHEEL ALIGNMENT on your Coach. If the Travel Height isn’t accurate and CONSISTENT, your bus WILL NOT driver/handle properly. I replaced all three HCVs in 2021 and didn’t realize the Steer Axle HCV was faulty until this year. I not only replaced the HCV but also reengineered the Steer Axle HCV actuating system. I’ve posted about it on this forum.

3) REPLACE ALL WORN ZF SUSPENSION COMPONENTS - I have replaced, or one could say, refurbished nearly all of my suspension. Some by necessity and some by desperation to make my Newell Great Again… Get to know your ZF Suspension. I’ve provided everything you need to know on this thread and probably in a few others. If you don’t know, you can’t grease any of the “ball joint” components.

4) ALL WHEEL ALIGNMENT - I could count the numerous times I’ve had my Newell aligned but it wasn’t until I took it to
Bill Rajewski in Columbia Missouri with Perry Legend Collision Center (573-442-7883) that the Coach drove properly. I’ve posted about this as well. Bill knows his business and knows how to make a vehicle roll straight down the highway. Trust me on this one because I guarantee you will not be disappointed.
Richard taught me the old fashioned way of aligning a Newell using string, plum bobs, math, and your noggin. He set me off on the right course but I simply didn’t have the right environment or time to complete the process. I’m sure Richard has posted his process.

5) Last but not least…. and this is my opinion… the Hydraulic System (not the ZF RAS system which is a stand alone closed loop system). My Coach has one little VICKERS V20 engine driven hydraulic pimp that “services” two critical components on the Newell, Steering Gearbox and Cooling Fan Motor. As I said, in my not so humble opinion, this setup is a loosing battle in the need for the ZF Gearbox to “function” properly and to have enough hydraulic pump to turn that Big Ass Fan that sucks air through your Radiator, Charge Air Cooler, and Hydraulic Fluid Cooler… not to mention force unneeded hot air out of the engine compartment.
In addition to the short list I’ve posted, I’m modifying my system to provide the ZF Gearbox it’s own private hydraulic pump the engine driven VICKERS V-20. I’m ADDING an Allison 4000 PTO driven large EATON/DANFOS hydraulic pump for the cooling fan hydraulic motor. Dedicated pumps for dedicated systems. Once I’m done, the ZF Gearbox will never be starved of hydraulic pressure or flow because it shared a system with one pump. Additionally… and this is YUGE…. The cooling fan can/will be properly pitched for proper airflow through the Radiator/CAC/Cooler stack. I’ll post about this as well.


So there you go. That’s what I know as of today. “Learn as we Go… Grow as we Learn”… it’s what I tell my pilots that report to me…

I hope what I’ve learned will be a fast track to success for others. Learn from my experiences and mistakes so to speak…


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Read the Original Post Below ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

I’ve collected the following information using the ZF Data Plates on our 2005. The coach was built in 2004 as unit #744. I have no idea how long Newell used the ZF RL-85 suspension and drive train. The Drive Axle has a different designation (A-132/S-91/PP 476774).

Steer Axle Data Plates were located on the left and right steering hubs. 
Steer Tag Axle Data Plate was located on the aft side of the horizontal beam, left of centerline. 
Drive Axle Data Plate was located on the left driveshaft tube facing aft. The differential has its own data plate mounted on the housing.

Data plates may be difficult to see due road grime, they may have been covered by tape when the undercarriage was painted black. I used simple green HD to clean off the areas where the data plates are mounted. Note: Simple Green HD should not corroded metal parts. 

I worked with ZF technical customer service to identify the part numbers listed below. They provided me with diagrams and parts list which I’m also posting. ZF is a enormous German company that manufactures and supplies several lines of motor vehicle equipment. Maneuvering within their system is at first overwhelming and frustrating. I have requested from ZF availability and prices for the parts listed below. I will update information as it becomes available. 

Steer RL-85/E

.pdf Steer Axle RL-85:E.pdf Size: 919.49 KB  Downloads: 136


Drive Axle A-132/S-91/PP
.pdf Drive Axle .pdf Size: 800.33 KB  Downloads: 56


Steer Tag Axle RL-85/A
.pdf Steer Tag Axle RL-85:A.pdf Size: 835.58 KB  Downloads: 98


Steer Tag Axle Function, Maintenance, Inspection, Troubleshooting  
.pdf ZF Servocom - RAS.pdf Size: 1.12 MB  Downloads: 83


Steering Gearbox 8098
.pdf Steering Gearbox 8098-Maintanence-Manual.pdf Size: 772.29 KB  Downloads: 50

.pdf Gearbox 8098-Spare-Parts-List.pdf Size: 392.07 KB  Downloads: 38


The following document covers several different types of ZF Servocom systems including the RAS, REAR AXLE STEERING. I urge every ZF owner to study the system so you have a solid understanding how your Active Steerable Tag system functions. It requires ANNUAL inspections and maintenance. There is a pressure accumulator that should be served annually and replaced after 10 years of service. 
Pressure accumulators in the ZF RAS look like a small metal soccer ball mounted in the frame between the drive and tag axle. The accumulator is pressurized with nitrogen and works in conjunction with the RAS closed loop hydraulic system pressurized to 250 psi. 
The nitrogen side of the accumulator can experience micro leaking of the valves used for testing and servicing. If the pressure in your tag system is not correct you may experience anomalies during operation. There is a pressure sensor installed in the system that is activated at or below 230 psi and turns a light on at the drivers position warning of low pressure situation. 
Low pressure in a tag system will manifest while backing up and the tag tires my not move in the correct direction. If the tag pressure is low enough the tires will turn in the wrong direction and backing up is impossible. Don’t force it! 

Steering Systems and Accessories for Commercial Vehicles


These are life limited parts steer axle and tag axle steer system. There may be additional parts such as steer axle hub bearings for the control arms. 

Steering Axle Tie rod Part # 0501.007.768 (one required)
Steering Axle Tie rod Part # 0501.007.769 (one required)
Steering Axle Tie rod Part # 0501.007.611 (sway bar link-two required)
Control arm bushing Part # 0501.314.963 (eight require)

Sway Bar Link Assembly - LEMFÖRDER 3079901
   

Steering Tag Axle Tie rod Part # 0501.005.797 (one required) 
   

I have not identified tie rod ends for the steer gearbox hydraulic assist system. 
I have not identified tie rod ends for the steer tag axle hydraulic actuator.

These documents provide a wealth of information about the ZF suspension. 
Lubrication and Maintenance 
.pdf Lubrication and Maintenance ZF-Axle-RL-85-E-A.pdf Size: 565.55 KB  Downloads: 51


Operating Manual
.pdf Operating Manual zf-rl-axle-manual.pdf Size: 1.05 MB  Downloads: 51


Repair Manual
.pdf Repair Manual RL-85 5th Edition.pdf Size: 10.8 MB  Downloads: 48



Time in service is a limiting factor in these steering parts. Keep in mind the coach may have low mileage but time is an enemy to any of these parts. They live in a hostile environment far below the driver’s seat. The tie rod ends have rubber boots designed to protect the inner workings of these parts. If the boot is damaged in any way, the world of road grime and nature’s elements have an open door to enter and degrade the performance of these critical steering parts.

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Posted by: j welch
03-12-2022, 01:17 PM
Forum: General
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Hello my valid keypad won’t light up no power to it any thoughts

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Posted by: Wanderman
03-11-2022, 03:04 PM
Forum: Plumbing and fixtures
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Hey All,
  When i first got my coach, I had an open threaded hole on the top of my waste tank. Turned out it was for the tank rinse system that directs hose water to either the top or bottom of the tank to rinse it out.  It had been epoxied back into the side of the tank at some point.
Well I was looking at something else and notices that it had separated again.

Are these ABS tanks? Any suggestions on the best epoxy or other repair goo to use?

I have rigged up a support system for this rather long and heave assembly so it shouldn't happen again... maybe!

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                                                     2005 40' COACH #724 FOR SALE.  

                                                  One of two forty-footers produced in 2005

   In Feb of 2021, we went from a 2004 45' Newell to this beautiful 40' 2005.  Why?  To get a steerable tag axel.  It drives like a dream and is garaged in our carport at the LAKE OF THE OZARKS in Missouri except for our annual trip to a warmer place for winter.  SUPER LOW MILEAGE - 30,000 MI.   It is also, always plugged into AC.

Sadly, health issues make it necessary for me to sell it.   SCROLL DOWN TO SEE MORE.......

VIN 1N9406X8551011724     COACH #724  YEAR: 2005   MODEL: 400   MILEAGE: 30,000

Tires: 90% - No cracks in sidewals.  Certified satisfactory by Newell in Oct 2021

Caterpillar 500 HP C13 Diesel Engine (pre-DEF)   Allison 6-speed Automatic Transmision

Valid Truline Computerized Leveling System

3 SLIDES: 2 in Salon - 1 in Bedroom

FEATURES:
Anti-lock Braking System

Batteries: Engine 2-Heavy Duty Certified by Newell in 2021  House - 6 Heavy Duty (certified by Newell in 2021

Bays (3): 1 motorized bay in nose of coach, 1 large bay and 1 small bay in passenger side of coach

Diesel/Electric Aqua-Hot   Electric Heaters in Bath and under Desk   (3) Ducted Dometic Roof Air  Tri-Zone Thermostat

Girard Motorized Awings over windows including front door   In-Motion Satellite On Roof

Powertech 20Kw Generator in quiet box in driver-side bay   Rear Back-up Camera   Front Entrance 

Desk with large slide-out storage and desk drawer   SubZero 26cf Refrigerator with 2 Freezer Drawers & Ice Maker

German-Made Miele Dishwasher,  2-Burner Gaggenau cooktop, Sharp Microwave/Convection Oven  

Silver-Leaf Vehicle Monitor System   Yamaha Stereo Receiver with speakers throughout    Marble floor in Galley and Bath

Sculpted Carpet in Salon and Plush in Bedroom   Splendide Washer/Dryer in Cabinet in Bath   

2 Large Built-in cabinets in Bedroom with Plexiglass doors  

Collapsible Shelf in Bedroom to permit access to rear bath during travel.   

Side Custom Queen + bed (65" x 80") with motorized life for storage underneath bed

Ceiling Fan in Bedroom   42" TV Front and 50" 4K Active Smart TV in Rear  Direct TV Receiver in Salon

Rear Bath with generous shower, 2 large closets and drawers below closets in bath.

                                                  ASKING PRICE $200,000

                  * INSPECTION BY ADVANCE APPOINTMENT ONY AS WE LIVE IN IT FULL TIME *

                                   QUESTIONS: EMAIL: [email protected]

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Posted by: EHoch
03-11-2022, 12:17 PM
Forum: Discussion around Coach Insurance
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We are taking delivery on a 2023 Newell (#1750) next month, and I'm having a terrible time finding anyone that will insure it for full value.  Everyone seems to cap out at $1M stated value or less.  Several folks have suggested Ron Jarvie, and he doesn't have anything above $1M, either.  Does anyone have any suggestions?    Thank you

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Beautiful Newell for sale
4 slides
4 air conditioners
very nice bath and a half model
all new awnings,all window awnings are power,2 full curb side awnings power with auto wind sensor for safety
625hp c15 cat engine takes this coach down the road with ease
zf as-tronic 10 speed trans
zf suspenion with steerable tag axle
valid truline leveling system
smart tire monitoring system

fisher-paykel dishwasher
subzero fridge/freezer
ge oven
gaggenau recessed cook top
stacked washer/dryer
agua hot system  (just serviced)

power tech 20kw generator
vip smart wheel
cb radio
silverleaf vehicle monitoring system  (all new updated system including new surge guard transfer switch box)

kvh in motion satellite system
HD satellite system also
marantz home theater system in front salon and bedroom
dvd system
visteon am/fm 6 cd stereo

outdoor pull out entertainment center
norcold freezer/fridge
direct tv receiver
flat screen tv
gagenna bbg grill

batteries new in 2019
tires put on in 2019
new coffee maker

The list goes on and on of all the great standard and upgraded parts and systems.This coach looks and drives awesome going down the road plus the ease of driving it with all of the great parts is much better than any other coach I have driven.with the steerable tag axle you can maneuver so much easier in tight situations.
The coach is at Newell in OK now getting engine and trani serviced and any other small repairs it might need
It has approximately 185,000 miles on it, has been keep inside and taken very good care of at newell.
It is priced at 369,000 Priced less than others that have sold lately and less than ones on the market now Great Deal
2007 quad-slide p2000i body styling enhancements. Thank you.        ( price reduced to  $354,900 )

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Posted by: B and C
03-05-2022, 01:36 PM
Forum: Air Operated Systems and Leaks
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Went to RV yesterday and found air system completely down.  Located a leak in the 120V compressor compartment on a small silver/black component on the sidewall.  It is about 2 inches long by 1 inch wide, mounted to the sidewall near the compressor with two plug on electrical connections and an air supply from the compressor exhaust(?) side. The air supply runs through another component before reaching the part leaking.  There is a full-blown air leak from the bottom of this small component which has drained the entire system. 
I have tried to post pictures but obviously need some guidance on how to post.
Thanks!!


This is another picture with the part in question outlined by the crude blue box.
Thank you.

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